Does anyone have experience with Bertram 10.75X68 brass? Is it any good?

I don't like it. The stuff I bought was definatly junk.. You won't get many reloads with it for one thing..They have old machinery Im told by some who should know, but????..

The upside is in some cases he is the only whore in town, and better than nothing..which can be the case of the 10.75x68 from time to time..Hornaber comes up with good 10.75 brass from time to time thru Huntingtons, that's the time to by 500 pieces...LB-404 that posts here sometimes usually has some, maybe he will sell it as someone told me he sold his rifle that he bought from me..

Until someone with experience specifically with Bertram 10,75x68 brass can comment, I can add at least a few personal Bertram experiences.

The Bertram brass I got in the 80s and 90s in at least two different calibers was very iffy. Rims needed recutting, primer pockets were very inconsistent and sometimes even the head diameters were way out of line. It was years before I was willing to try Bertram again.

I finally did so around 2008 and was happily surprised to find that it was vastly improved. Another batch just last year (2018) in a different caliber was likewise very usable. It's definitely not cheap, but as Ray says sometimes there's no other source. And more colorfully, too! Go Ray!

Not exactly what you asked, but I hope it's helpful. I can supply particulars if you are interested.

Soft ! tends to crush in the press and I dont trust the rims ! Very irritating when you have a round 50 or 100 and there are a few that get mangled in the press

But then on the other hand for the longest time the only brass available for older calibers !

Absolutely, positively, the worst brass I have ever seen!

In fact, in all my loading experience, seeing brass from all over the world, non even comes close to this junk.


I would never use it even you paid me to.

How the hell could they make brass cases that have wall thickness twice as much on one side than the other beats me!

Quality Cartridge "might" make some if enough people order. RCC brass will make it and it costs about as much as Bertram but apparently is milled and will last for many reloads, but they're new and not many reviews.

I bought 350 Rigby Rimless RCC brass. I loaded some rounds but have not shot any yet. The primer pockets were narrow. I had to ream them out to get primers to seat.

I have Bertram 10.75X68 brass. I'll send you 5 for the price of shipping if you want to test them.

My question is. How can Bertram be in business for all these years and not learn how to consistantly make a quality product? It sure a'int rocket science. I also, have had poor experiences with it and it is outrageously priced for fourth rate brass. I just don't get it.

I’ve used Bertram brass in my TypeA Mauser loading 300gr bullets to 1800fps with no issues and am on reload number four.
I think lighter loads like these or even original velocities shouldn’t pose a problem with this brass but folks sure seem to like to load the 10.75 hot these days which may be too much for the Bertram brass.

The first time I used Bertram brass, it split necks because they failed to anneal it after reforming. The primer pockets were oversized enough to make you believe they had been repeatedly fired with excessive loads, instead of being new. I just don't understand how they stay in business.

In defence of Bertram brass and in the same breath it goes to Woodleigh as well.

After the failure of production of ammo by the collapse of Kynoch and much of the British gun trade under the crippling effects of the Wilson govt left wing agenda in GB there was a real shortage of ammo and components for the old classics and here is where Bertram and Woodleigh stepped in.... almost in Synchrony.

Yes there were problems with some offerings but for the most they offered solutions when there was none !

The 500 Jeffery an example......
In South Africa we were fortunate that long time African PH Ken Stewart decided to retire to a the small community of Ofcalaco in the Eastern Transvaal , then later to Pietersburg where he set up a bullet and brass making business offering brass for Euro calibers that we could no longer get.

Personally as a shooter of vintage guns with obsolete calibers we owe these gentlemen a debt of gratitude for keeping some "old ones" in service and alive.

What I know .585 Hubel Express brass is made by Bertram. On the same machines .408 CheyTac is made too.

I don't know for other calibers, but I believe .585 HE made by them is high quality stuff.

Jiri

I have to qualify my observations by admitting that I only have used Bertram brass in somewhat obscure and relatively low pressure obsolete Brit cartridges like .577/.500 No2 Express, .500/.450 No1 Express, .500/.450 3-1/4” Nitro, and 577 3-1/4” BPE over the last 15 years or so.
These have been working just fine and are held to specs that easily reload and rechamber in the old rifles.
I am told that .500AHR brass (American Hunting Rifles) is made for AHR by Bertram. This is very consistent brass and is working well in my rifle.
This being said; I do not “hot rod” my reloads and I do anneal case necks first thing.
- Mike

just an FYI. Midwayusa has 10.75x68 Bertram brass on clearance at $68.66 ($3.43/Piece). (4 at this price)

Highwall, have you considered buying some NOS RWS factory ammo & using that Brass for your reloading?
m4220

I’ve only used Bertram in 600 nitro and 425 WR

Both have been great!

I had little choice in these caliber though, but they performed well so far.
Some of the 600 are at 6 reloads and all good.

I reluctantly must say that Bertram will get you by in some of the old Winchester rounds that work around 1500 FPS..but a poor choice at best..

As to the 10.75x68 give Buffalo Arms Co. a call or email, they come up with some rare stuff and they show 10.75 in their catalog..and prices are reasonable and they stand behind their products..I think they probably produce it from 375 H&H brass, not sure about the headstamp, but they have it.

Buffalo Arms Co.
WWW.BUFFALOARMS.COM
208-263-6953

I'll just say---the last time I bought 577 nitro brass from Bell/Mast the case mouths looked like they were cut with a jack knife. Wavy and varied by .050"---poor & they should be ashamed of it---I'm trying to buy more 577's right now and Jamison & horneber are vacant. Only 577's on the market I can find are Bertram

I have had good and bad with Bertram brass.

New 500/450 3 1/4” is good, older stuff too thick to chamber (way thicker than Kynoch and won’t chamber my Holland) so must be reamed.

375 Flanged Mag brass has a lot of splits after first firing. But Norma brass is great.

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
I'll just say---the last time I bought 577 nitro brass from Bell/Mast the case mouths looked like they were cut with a jack knife. Wavy and varied by .050"---poor & they should be ashamed of it---I'm trying to buy more 577's right now and Jamison & horneber are vacant. Only 577's on the market I can find are Bertram

Here is some Jamison if you are looking.

https://www.gunsinternational....cfm?gun_id=101099882