I am the proud owner of what I believe to be the very first CZ550 in .500 Jeffery. I picked it up today. It has a brown laminatated stock with two crossbolts. The action has been bedded and they did an action job for me. When I get some loads worked up, I will post a report.

Dave

Photos of the rifle, please.

George

When and where can one be bought in Australia

Hope it works better than my .404 Jeffery.

PC,

You need a 500 Jeffery to match your 404...not that shit from CZ

Mike

Mike,

what the man needs and wants is a CZ 550 SAfari Magnum in 500 Jeffery's...and now he has it. I warrant the CZ he HAS works better than whatever fantasy rifle you wish for but don't own yet.
Oops, sorry, maybe you DO have a 500 Jeffery's...what brand do YOU own?

just curious...but are all of your posts a simple case of penile envy? They all read like someone who hasn't a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but compensates for said condition by downgrading others purchase choices. I do hope things get better for you soon...

regards,

Rich
NRA Life Member
DRSS
and owner of three CZ's that perform flawlessly. Haven't tried the upside down feeding thing yet, every time I stand on my head to check it out I get dizzy and topple over.

Rich

I think you mis reading a post.

You see, PC has a full top end custom Mauser in 404 Jeffery.

I don't think PC owns a CZ in 500 Jeffery. Read his posting.

Mike

I saw a CZ Safari in 458 Lott at Collector's Firearms in Houston today!

I don't think so...

1. Dave has a CZ in 500J.
2. PC merely wondered where one might be found in Australia
3. your unsolicited opinion was to let PC know you considerd his question without merit, and that
the CZ rifles were a "piece of shit". That last remark led me to ask what your bonafides are
with regard to the CZ lineup and any alleged feeding issues. Do you own either a 500 Jeffery or
a CZ 550 Safari Magnum in any DG (.400+ big bore)caliber.
4. my opinion WAS based on having owned several, and currently three, a 9,3x62 and two 416 Rigbys.
the three I DO OWN all feed flawlessly. I recommend them highly, they are, IMHO the only option
that a working man can reasonably afford to purchase and shoot.

I have sufficient confidence in them that I will take one of the 416's to Zimbabwe next summer as a back up for Cape Buffalo. It will take a zebra and a kudu Lord willing, maybe a few other species.

Just curious, still am, on what you base your conclusions on; and what your budget affords as an alternative to the CZ's.

regards,

Rich
NRA Life Member
DRSS
CZ Lover

quote:

Originally posted by Mike McGuire:
Rich

I think you mis reading a post.

You see, PC has a full top end custom Mauser in 404 Jeffery.

I don't think PC owns a CZ in 500 Jeffery. Read his posting.

Mike

Mike,
Being a CZ lover, and general gun-whore myself, and knowing of PC's exquisite .404 Jeffery Mauser, I thought your post was quite funny.

I hope it is not lost on Rich. Trying to explain it to the Idaho Zephyr might be about like trying to teach the zoo gorilla how to use a zoo map to plan his escape.

Rich

You will notice I have a big smiley after my post to PC. Unknown to you we have often joked about him matching his 404 with a 500 Jeffery.

You are trying to make a big deal out of what is fuck all.

Mike

Ron,

That is why I kept my last post to him very short as I figured he has probably read more than his 10 line quota for the day.

Mike

CZ's are well worth while and need no PR-police to defend them. The worst thing I have had from them is the .505 Gibbs that feeds well from the right side of the box but not from the left. They really shouldn't try to squeeze the Gibbs into a Rigby-sized box. The 500 Jeffery will be not so badly handicapped by excessive body diameter as the Gibbs, but then it adds on the rebated rim to deal with.
Should be interesting indeed to see how the CZ 500 Jeffery feeds.

Mike adores Weatherby's, so you can pretty rapidly come to the conclusion that he has no style or taste. In addition, he is a three times Darwin Award record holder( something to do with unsafe gun handling as I remember- Right Mike? You just gotta keep that barrel out of your southern orifices. Focus, concentrate!! You can do it. I have faith in you! -Rob

George, my son will be home this weekend with his digital camera and I will post a picture for you.

Mike, I was a little suprised by your post. I have a CZ in .404 Jeffery too. In fact, it's the first CZ that I ever owned. I have had great luck with it. When I got it, I had them bed the action, put a cross bolt in it, and do an action job. It came through with great wood, very straight grained through the forend and the wrist with very nice figure in the butt. It feeds wonderfully with handloaded 400 grain Woodleighs. It will put three shots inside an inch at 100 yards all day long. In fact, I used that rifle and load this last weekend to take a very large bison bull in Kansas. I was hunting with a fellow from Kansas who shot a second bull and after four of five shots from his .300 Remington Ultra Magnum failed to put it down, he took over my .404 and put it down with two 400 grain Woodleigh solids. In fact, I was so happy with my first CZ in .404 that I picked up a CZ 550 American 9.3X62 Mauser and now, the .500 Jeffery. If I had one complaint about my .404 it would be that it is very heavy. With a Burris scope and Burris rings, I think it runs close to eleven pounds. Hey, I know that they are not Empire Rifles but I think they are great working guns.

Guys, I am new here. I didn't mean to start a fight about this. If a fellow is not inclined to get a CZ, that's ok with me. I like them but I like all kinds of guns. I would love to try a Blaser R93. Mainly, I just wanted everyone to know that CZ's Safari Classic in now available in .500 Jeffery.

I am waiting on a case length gauge and factory crimp die from Lee Precision. As soon as I get those items, I will put together some loads and give you and report as to how the rifle feeds and functions. I know many guys have had concerns about the .500 Jeffery because of the rebated rim and how that might impact feeding of the cartridges. If there is a problem, I will let you know.

Dave

what is the price on the CZ .500 Jeffrey ? im planning to build a .500 Jeffrey on a Mauser, and it would be interessting on what the price on a factory rifle is about.

I know a guy that many years worked for the Game Department i Tanganyika, now Tanzania , their issued Big Game /Dangerous Game rifle, Brnos in .404.

I will again state for the record, my "custom" built CZ 550 in .404 Jeffery came from the manufacturer not feeding (from the left side by the way) and keyholing at 50 yards. That strikes me as caca to use a Texas term.

My CZ .404 Jeffery feeds perfectly (right out of the box) and shoots sub-MOA for three shots with my handloaded GSC HV, North Fork SP/CP/FP and Woodleigh RNSP/FMJ. I have not tried any of the sub-caliber sized Barnes bullets that were keyholing in MJines rifle, and doubt I will.

Doesn't make me feel any differently -- if you make something "custom" and charge folks $2000+ for it you make sure it works before before you ship it. Pretty simple to me.

. . . and another thing. My first CZ, a CZ 550 in .416 Rigby experienced the now infamous and very common crack in the stock at the tang -- after less than 100 rounds. My advice, buy a Ruger Safari Magnum and get a decently built rifle.

I will be placing an order with my local dealer soon after the holidays for one. Even at the price of there safari classics line it will be less expensive than a custom and a much shorter wait! The only CZ I have is a ZKK 602 {no peep sight} in 458 of later production that performs flawlessly. I know about the potential feeding problems with the rebated rim but i'm willing to take the risks and work out any issues later. And besides I've been setting on some 500 jeffery ammo for some time--- just hope it matches CZ's version of the cartridge! R.

Dave,

I have nothing against CZs. In fact it has been my standard recommendation out here for shooters buying a 375.

But as I said earlier, PC has a real top end 404 made on a Mauser and that rifle he has is just begging for a bigger brother

Mike

Mike,
somebody "stole" your smiley face on your first post. Either way, the reference it CZ's as shit is unfounded and untrue.

RIP,

you have got to lay off the groceries...

Can either of you follow a post more than three lines long?

let me try this again:
1. Dave has a new CZ in 500 Jeffery.
2. PC wants to know when and where one can be had in AU.

these are two different people...work with me RIP, I know I've already lost Mike.

3. MM suggests (rather crudely) that the CZ would not be a good match for his custom 500J and
that CZ's are a piece of shit.
3b. Dave still has the new CZ in 500J, and likely does not give a rat's ass about what MM thinks
about anything. It has nothing to do with PC's desire to at least handle a CZ .500J.

here's where it gets complicated RIP... #1 and #2 are related. #2 and #3 are somewhat related, but #1 and #3's connection is rather tenuous, and irrelevant. #3b is the essence of the thread, boiled down for you and MM.

I really hope that isn't you in the picture...if so you are a definite candidate for either major
mass reduction surgery or an eight inch stretch.

regards,

Rich
NRA Life Member
DRSS

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Mike,
somebody "stole" your smiley face on your first post. Either way, the reference it CZ's as shit is unfounded and untrue.

Gee, I saw the smiley:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike McGuire:
PC,

You need a 500 Jeffery to match your 404...not that shit from CZ

Mike

And I could see that he was joking with his friend, but you took it personally and decided to make it into an argument...

Dave,
congratulations on your purchase. I am sure you will enjoy it. PC, hope they get to OZ soon so you can have the pleasure of at least handling one.
I think I am going to the shop and get double teamed by some Cruzon and a good Nicaraguan Oscuro.

regards,

Rich
NRA Life Member
DRSS
soon to be a 550 Gibbs shooter

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
I am the proud owner of what I believe to be the very first CZ550 in .500 Jeffery. I picked it up today. It has a brown laminatated stock with two crossbolts. The action has been bedded and they did an action job for me. When I get some loads worked up, I will post a report.

Dave

Congratulations on the first! Like George I look forward to the pictures.

quote:

3. MM suggests (rather crudely) that the CZ would not be a good match for his custom 500J and
that CZ's are a piece of shit.

Rich,

PC's custom rifle is a 404 J, not a 500 J

Mike

Mike,
Did the bullets I sent you make any difference?

Is the re-bated rim that big a problem in the 500 jeffery ? What problem's would it cause? I have read a little on this caliber and also the 505 Gibb's. It's been a while but I think I read where the Jeffery is supposed to be loaded hotter, but the Gibb's has a bigger case ? I am not familiar with alot of Large bore gun's and I was also wondering about re-chambering the 500 jeffery to 500 A-square, Can this be done? And would it be that much better? Thank's

Dave,

Congrats on the purchase, please post some pics along with your loading results.
Also, pay close attention to your feeding and ejection of loaded rounds and empty cases. When working up loads use a full magazine and work the action for every round (as opposed to loading singles) at different speeds.

I just purchased a CZ in 505 Gibbs and have noticed at slower speeds I do have some ejection problems. I don’t think it’s a problem with the ejection blade as much as I think the extractor needs tweaked.

A lot of guys bash the CZ (and I used to be one of them) but I think they need to be viewed as an unfinished product in most cases. For the money they can’t be beat (especially in 500 Jeff and the 505 Gib) and it does not take much more ($$$$) to get then up to snuff. After a trip to the smith you’ll still have less money in your reworked CZ than any custom magnum Mauser (at least by 50%) and will have a good working rifle.

Maxbear,

Check out the post a page back or two “500 Jeffery vs. 505 Gibbsâ€. There is some info on both of these cartridges there. As far a rechambering a Jeffery to an A-square, I don’t think you could do it because the Jeffery is a larger round than A-square.

Matt V.

Mike J., I agree with you. I also think the Ruger Magnum rifle is a great gun. In fact, in say a .416 Rigby, it is probably the "best buy" available in a dangerous game rifle today. However, none of them are perfect. I bought one in .375 H&H and shot if for a little while with the open sights. When we put the rings on and tried to mount a scope on it, we discovered that the action wasn't "true." We literally could not mount the scope. We sent it back to Ruger. They were great about it and just sent me a new gun. I love the rifle. It is a great piece and perhaps a better quality gun than my CZ but if you want a .404, .505, or a .500, I still think the CZs are fine choices. In addition, my CZs are all a bit more accurate than my Ruger although the Ruger is plenty accurate for a large caliber rifle. With 270 Speers, my 9.3X62 Mauser shoots almost one hole groups and as I indicated in my previous post, my .404 is also very accurate. What the heck, they are all fun right?

Dave

Rusty,

Not on the feeding. The rounds I loaded with the bullets you gave me would not feed either. Nor would the CZ headstamped ammo made by A-Square. Once I determined that none of the ammo would feed I did not even bother to shoot it, since the feeding problem needed to be fixed in any event. We shall see what CZ is able to do . . .

Mike

quote:

We shall see what CZ is able to do . . .

Perhaps they can fix it, but let's not get our hopes up just yet.

___

Does the CZ in .500 jeff use a staggered mag box or single stack?

Given their obvious lack of quality control, I have no intention of getting optimistic. I will say that I will either end up with a working rifle or my money back.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike McGuire:
PC,

You need a 500 Jeffery to match your 404...not that shit from CZ

Mike

Yeah I know, probably better off not having one if I can't get the right thing.

Posting for Dave Bush:





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Very nice rifle -- it looks quite businesslike!

Charles:

Thanks for posting the pictures for me.

I was able to confirm that this is indeed the very first .500 Jeffery from CZ. The second and third are destined for the SHOT SHOW and SAFARI CLUB INTERNATIONL SHOW.

It has taken me longer to put together the ammunition than the gun! I got RCBS dies, Woodleigh bullets, and Horneber brass from Huntingtons but I am still waiting on a case length gauge and factory crimp die from Lee Precision. As soon as I get those items, I will put some ammo togther and let you know how it shoots.

Dave

RCBS dies won't crimp?
A caliper cannot be used to measure case length?

Do you have your .510" pilot for the case trimmer? A . 50 BMG case mouth chamfer tool will do, as would the pilot.

Any close-ups of the magazine box, feed ramp, rails and follower would be very interesting.

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Charles:

Thanks for posting the pictures for me.

My pleasure.