I have read some horror stories about the Barnes bullets causing copper fouling, but don't remember ever reading about Northforks doing the same. Aren't they both all copper bullets? Why the differences? I am going to start reloading all copper for my 416 rem. I live in California, the no lead state. Thanks for any shared experiences. Gary

Gary
North Fork Softs are not 100% copper, they are a bonded lead core bullet.

NF Solids and Cup point bullets are lead free.

I have shot them in my double and did not notice any excessive fouling.If your pareticular barrel fouls badly with Barnes bullets, jusrt clean it with a good copper remover and follow that with J&B Bore Paste or Remclean, and then follow that with Prolix to remove the residue of the first two.

I found the old Barnes X bullets to foul horribly but that has not been my experience with the Triple Shocks, they don't seem to foul any worse than anything else in my rifles. Given how well the TSXs shoot in most rifles I can't see a reason to ever use the original X bullet unless for some reason that was all your rifle would shoot well.

For the restricted areas in Kalif. you'll have to load the Barnes or the new Nosler all copper. The NFs are lead bonded core & would not be "legal". Like adrook, I hated the early Barnes 'X', fouled badly & accuracy was always spotty. Th enew TSX & TTSX should be better but I am just recently giving them another look.

I shoot a lot of Triple Shocks in several different rifles with no fouling issues at all. As others have noted, the original "X" bullets did cause problems with some rifles, but I just haven't seen it with the TSX.

I consider the TSX a bullet for the 21st century... I like both the TSXand the North Forks...


Mike

Gary,

You could shoot the north fork cup point which is a copper bullet.

I dont think they are available in less than .366 (9.3mm).

I found that IMR 4350 did leave some copper fouling in my 450 Dakota using the NF. No other powder did this. wierd.

The Barnes X was a no go in my rifle. Took literally hours to unslime the barrel.

The TSX was much better.

Not as good as NF CP but OK.

Andy

Just to be clear. NF comes in a solid and a cup point solid in addition to the bonded lead core.

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Originally posted by I Bin Therbefor:
Just to be clear. NF comes in a solid and a cup point solid in addition to the bonded lead core.

As of the sale of NF, cup points were not available in smaller calibers.