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STC 2006 - PICS Dialup warning
02 November 2006, 06:25
jeffeossoSTC 2006 - PICS Dialup warning
an unsavory cast of charactors
Mike D touches off a 550 MAGNUM
George S - Homeboy Style
Ronie touches off the 550 Magnum - Note the PROPER use of fingers (are they touching?) .. BTW, Ronnie is a lefty avoiding recoilitus
Buck Lights a 550 Magnum --- the addiction begins
Holy Flying Piggies, Jeffe
02 November 2006, 06:38
.366torqueLooks like FUN!!! Hopefully soon the 9.3x64 & the 416 Rigby and I should make it down.
I'll be bringing a mystery gun to be made into something else.

02 November 2006, 06:41
GSP7I gotta move ta texas.
How come the grass is so green?
Heck its brown and silt dusty here. Ya gotta drive real, real slow and ya still get a hugh cloud of dust.
Looks like a great getogether
02 November 2006, 06:47
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by GSP7:
I gotta move ta texas.
Looks like a great getogether
x2, I'd have big handguns as well!02 November 2006, 07:04
Mike_Dettorre9,3x64's are not allowed...has to be at least .375...and since mine is 376 Steyr they usually make me wear a dress
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
02 November 2006, 07:07
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
9,3x64's are not allowed...has to be at least .375...and since mine is 376 Steyr they usually make me wear a dress
In drag! Me thinks not! So just the 416 Rigby & mystery gun it is!!
02 November 2006, 07:26
JMJ888quote:
I gotta move ta texas.
How come the grass is so green?
Be careful about visiting Texas...once you see the weather, the women, and the hunting you won't want to leave.
We have had enough rain down here the last few weeks to keep us green for a while.
What did you guys think of the 550...not really as bad as it you think it is going to be given its size?
02 November 2006, 07:28
RobgunbuilderYup- Nothing under .40 cal allowed. No 1:10 twist DGR's either. We don't tolerate failure to penetrate. I'll bring the Necromonicon!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
02 November 2006, 07:33
KennethIWhat is that last picture of?
02 November 2006, 07:43
GeorgeSThat's me blowing up a bunch of gutpiles and carcasses using my .375H&H.

George
02 November 2006, 08:02
Hog KillerGeorge, you realy hit on something big with your 235gr, .005" jacketed bullets. They will come apart.

Hog Killer
IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
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We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club
02 November 2006, 08:19
Idaho Sharpshooterstill looking for that "lost in the mail" invitation...sigh. Maybe next year when I have the 550 Gibbs and 510KX finished and dialed in.
Rich
02 November 2006, 09:31
RobgunbuilderThats flying pig and deer carcases mixed with Vulture Barf and fish oil! The hog head and cape are the biggest chunk exiting the ground.
George is also practicing his homeboy DG rifle stance and attitude. Notice the proper sight picture and gang signiture! Yo!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
02 November 2006, 19:41
Canuckquote:
That's me blowing up a bunch of gutpiles and carcasses using my .375H&H.
Very cool. Gotta find out if its legal to buy tannerite in Canada.

ps: I just can't resist......The ball cap is a big improvement George!

pps: are those shooting sticks designed for a pygmy?? Shite they look short.
Cheers,
Canuck
02 November 2006, 19:47
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Canuck:
pps: are those shooting sticks designed for a pygmy?? Shite they look short.
Cheers,
Canuck
They are dettorre's!
02 November 2006, 21:33
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by Canuck:
ps: I just can't resist......The ball cap is a big improvement George!

pps: are those shooting sticks designed for a pygmy?? Shite they look short.
Cheers,
Canuck
Canuck,
You don't think I'd bring my luckiest hunting hat to south Texas, do you? And risk some Texican swiping it?

Yeah, those are Mike D's sticks; he's a little (about a yard

) shorter than I am, but it made for a funny picture.

George
02 November 2006, 21:44
tiggertateI'm sure sorry I couldn't stay for the moment of truth, George. I had a couple of reloads, too!
Great company, great facility and not nearly enough time on the ground but at least I got graced with the presence of the one and only Gringo Cazador! Sober, no less...
"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson.
03 November 2006, 01:29
Canuckquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Canuck:
pps: are those shooting sticks designed for a pygmy?? Shite they look short.
Cheers,
Canuck
They are dettorre's!

Ooops.

No offence Mike! You know I used the term pygmy in the nicest way possible, right???

Now that you mention it though (jeffe and George), the 550 does look a lot bigger in Mike's hands than it does in Buck's.

Jeffe et al....Any plans for a spring STC gathering yet??? This looks like far too much fun to keep missing out on.
Cheers boys,
Canuck
03 November 2006, 02:14
jeffeossoChris,
there could be... looking for a place....
jeffe
03 November 2006, 02:24
GeorgeSJeffe,
As long as it's not scheduled for the first full week in March or May, I'm in!

Perhaps a bison cull would work? We need bigger gutpiles to shoot into.

George
03 November 2006, 02:40
Bill SovernsGod help us you guys are ugly.......hehehe....
Looks like a good time was had by all

03 November 2006, 02:44
RobgunbuilderBison, Bison, Bison.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
03 November 2006, 03:23
Canuckquote:
Perhaps a bison cull would work?

That is a GREAT idea!

And very fitting given the calibre requirement for these events.
Last two weeks of April and first two weeks of May are bad for me (our turkey season). Otherwise, I'm wide open that time of year. I would prefer March or early April...still wintery here...nice weather to be out of town for!
Cheers,
Canuck
03 November 2006, 06:13
Mike_DettorreGod took the 5 inches out of each leg and put all 10 inches in my third leg...
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
03 November 2006, 06:36
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
God took the 5 inches out of each leg and put all 10 inches in my third leg...
So THAT's why you have a tattoo that says 'Tripod'!
I just thought you were into photography.

George
03 November 2006, 20:16
fla3006A bison hunt sounds interesting. John The Greek sent me some good advice on one. Put me on the list as a strong possible.
NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS.
Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
04 November 2006, 00:13
.366torqueA Bison hunt in B.C., may I join as well?
04 November 2006, 00:37
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
A Bison hunt in B.C., may I join as well?
Who said anything about B.C.? It would be a) a hassle to fly to for most of us, and b) expensive to get the meat back.
George
04 November 2006, 00:56
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
quote:
Originally posted by .366torque:
A Bison hunt in B.C., may I join as well?
Who said anything about B.C.? It would be a) a hassle to fly to for most of us, and b) expensive to get the meat back.
George
True! Just wishfull thinking on my part.
04 November 2006, 03:35
jeffeossoHmm,
might have a line on spring bison in montana....
jeffe
04 November 2006, 05:04
Canuckquote:
Hmm,
might have a line on spring bison in montana....
Now that would really rock! It'd be driving distance for me.
Still a royal PITA to get my guns to the US -- much MUCH worse than entering Canada with guns(that ones for George

) -- but totally worth it. I am not sure if there's a restriction on bringing bison meat from the US into Canada...will have to check on that if this works out.
Cheers
Canuck
04 November 2006, 05:44
jeffeossoSorry,
in Montana!!
and I think remington spartans in 45/70 nitro could be the order of the day!!
jeffe
04 November 2006, 08:59
470 MbogoHI guys,
You seemed to have a good time without Chris and I. I'm in for any other trips in the future. Just had some things that had to be delt with. The Spring time would work out for me also. Buffalo or Boars it doesn't much matter which. Did John from Bridger make it to the hunt?
Take good care,
Dave
04 November 2006, 10:52
RIPquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Yup- Nothing under .40 cal allowed. No 1:10 twist DGR's either. We don't tolerate failure to penetrate. I'll bring the Necromonicon!-Rob
Rob just cannot get over taking a whuppin' on the fast twist versus slow twist issue for big bores.
At my state of enlightenment currently, any hunting rifle I build of 40 caliber or over gets a 1:10" twist barrel, or it gets nothing at all.
Thank you for another opportunity to plug the 10" twist: most versatile twist for any 40 bore or larger hunting rifle.

04 November 2006, 17:54
jeffeossoDave,
we'll see what we can put together!!
jeffe
04 November 2006, 18:19
bigdoggy700It looks like everyone enjoyed themselves. Thats what shooting is all about. What kind of ballistics do you get with the 550? Please pardon my ignorance.
04 November 2006, 19:11
MississippianIm glad I dont have to provide groceries for that group of men!
Jeffe,
Who did you recommend to me last spring as a source of cast bullets for my 600ok? Im ready to try something different.
Thanks, KP
Double Rifle Shooters Society
04 November 2006, 20:31
jeffeossoKP,
wayne doudna, customcastbullets.com for your cast bullets... he does really good work.
Food wasn't that bad... now, the beer and wine bill... well, that's another story... just hope you don't shoot the smallest critter!!
the 550magnum does ~2400 with a 700gr jacketed bullet, 2300 is reasonable, and a great cast load is 715s at 2130
jeffe
04 November 2006, 20:40
GeorgeSMississipian,
Jeffe's right. Food was cheap; we even forgot to eat a couple of times, we were laughing so hard.
Even dinners at the TexMex restaurant were between $12-$15 apiece, including beers, and no one left the table hungry.
George
04 November 2006, 20:52
MississippianJeffe,
Thanks, Ive gotta stock up in case some of the refined gentlemen at DRSS 07 wanta fire the 600.
George,
Mexican is always a good choice for large appetites! I have never left a Mex rest. hungry!
Double Rifle Shooters Society