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01 November 2003, 10:14
Shadow
Who is this guy?
There is a seller on Gunbroker, called "cyberrifles".

He is listing:

A 500 Jeffrey on Rem 30 action by Jeffrey
A 505 Gibbs
Original 404 Jeff by Jeffrey
Original WR 425 by WR

A bunch of single and double square bridge Mauser rifles. Doubles rifles.

Prices are steep, but not crazy considering the goods. He is located in Kali.

Looking at his auctions are not for the faint of heart, or short of wallet (I'm both), but he is selling some great stuff.

Who is this guy????

Thanks,

Bob

[ 11-01-2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Shadow ]
01 November 2003, 10:50
Mickey1
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow:
There is a seller on Gunbroker, called "cyberrifles".

He is listing:

A 500 Jeffrey on Rem 30 action by Jeffrey
A 505 Gibbs
Original 404 Jeff by Jeffrey
Original WR 425 by WR

A bunch of single and double square bridge Mauser rifles. Doubles rifles.

Prices are steep, but not crazy considering the goods. He is located in Kali.

Looking at his auctions are not for the faint of heart, or short of wallet (I'm both), but he is selling some great stuff.

Who is this guy????

Thanks,

Bob
Why doesn't
The Shadow Know?

CyberRifles? Maybe they are exactly that.

[ 11-01-2003, 01:51: Message edited by: Mickey1 ]
01 November 2003, 10:53
Shadow
Mickey 1,

The Shadow "knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men", but about this gent nada.

Good one though,

Bob
01 November 2003, 12:10
T.Carr
His name is Steve Wojtak, his area code is 310 (the L.A area) according to his listings on GunsAmerica.

He has, what appears to be, some very nice rifles.

Here's alink to his stuff on Gunbroker

Regards,

Terry

[ 11-01-2003, 04:18: Message edited by: T.Carr ]
01 November 2003, 17:14
Shadow
Thanks Terry,

He has some beautiful rifles for sale. Good to put a name to the handle, just in case I win the lottery and "need" a 500 Jeffrey, I know who to call.

Bob
02 November 2003, 04:32
Atkinson
I found it interresting that the "original 500 Jefferys was "sight regulated" with RL-15 and so stamped on the barrel....

I'm under the impression that the gun should be older than the relatively new powder RL-15, but perhaps their is an explanation for this and I suspect some of our more astute members on old English guns might be able to shed some light on this subject, would anyone care to explain this to me, else my suspecious mind runneth amuck [Confused] .
02 November 2003, 05:59
GeorgeS
Ray,

Didn't Alcoa once produce smokeless powders for cartridges? Could the 'RL' actually be an 'AL'?

Just a theory...

George
02 November 2003, 12:04
Atkinson
George,
The photo is from T. Carrs post above and the photos clearly show RL-110-535 on the barrel as the rec load.
02 November 2003, 14:31
Mickey1
There are 2 different Jefferys.

W. J. Jeffery & Co. Ltd This is the 'main' Jeffery from St. James Street London. Now owned by Paul Roberts.

W. Jeffery and Son. These guys are in So.Cal. and use this name. That is who made this rifle.

Their was a company in Calcutta named W. Jeffery and Son that sold rifles of that name in India. I believe a cousin of the original Jeffery that we normally think of. These were trade rifles, much like Manton. You see these rifles in Australia and there is a definite difference in the quality between an 'English' Jeffery and an 'Indian' Jeffery.
02 November 2003, 16:10
fla3006
I bought my Brevex 510-460 from Steve. He likes big magnum Mausers, has some nice ones.
02 November 2003, 16:41
Nitroman
I could go to the bank, speak the right words, and have a cashiers check for that .425 WR, but am so unable to afford it it isn't funny.

There will come a day though and hopefully in the not too far future.
03 November 2003, 02:14
Judy
I was under the impression that even the W J Jeffery & Co. was a bit of a 'trade gun'. I was told that this firm did not actually make guns just sell them, much like Army and Navy or Sears & Roebuck. Definitely not a Hollands, Purdey, Boss, Rigby, etc, etc.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
03 November 2003, 04:23
GeorgeS
Ray,

I didn't follow the hyperlink to the photos. [Embarrassed]

Good luck with the auction; it's a pretty spiffy-looking rifle.

George
03 November 2003, 05:17
Mickey1
quote:
Originally posted by Judy:
I was under the impression that even the W J Jeffery & Co. was a bit of a 'trade gun'. I was told that this firm did not actually make guns just sell them, much like Army and Navy or Sears & Roebuck. Definitely not a Hollands, Purdey, Boss, Rigby, etc, etc.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
You are right in one sense. They did buy actions, barrels etc but did the fit and finish themselves. They were a London Co.

W Jefferey was an Indian Co., like Manton, who bought complete rifles. This is what Army & Navy and Sears Roebuck did.

I don't know the connection between the 'old' Indian W. Jeffery and the 'new' SoCal W. Jeffery.
03 November 2003, 15:44
Atkinson
Mickey1,
Of course your right and I had a log jam between the ears, I knew that Paul had bought the name, I just didn't click!! It was one of those "ahaaa! I gotcha scumbag, the guns a phony" type of deals, ooops! [Wink] [Big Grin] No, actually I really thought the barrel had been replaced...