19 April 2002, 09:11
<Dr. John>aerodynamic .458 bullet
who makes the most aerodynamic bullet for the 458? I am looking to practice longrange with my 458 winmag. (400 yards-600yards)
I know the cartridge was not made for this and that there are better cartridges but I am experimenting.
I am presently shooting BarnesX. tried 300gr, 500gr. will be testing 400, and 450grainers.
would be nice if nosler made a Ballistic tip.
19 April 2002, 10:58
Paul HJensen lists a 400 gr bullet in .458", I believe it is the most aerodynamic.
Your best bet may be some of the cast bullets the BP crowd uses for long range target work.
19 April 2002, 11:13
<BMG>The most aerodynamic bullet in the .458" arena is the Lost River Ballistics bullet. It has a BC of .470
http://www.lostriverballistic.com./LRB_Start.htm
19 April 2002, 12:11
<shiflan>Try GS Custom:
www.gscustom.co.za
...and look under "HV bullets"
According to my Load from a Disk software, the following bullets have good BC's:
Barnes 400 grain X S .457
Barnes 450 grain X S .488
shiflan
19 April 2002, 13:11
old4x4Dr John..not to get off the subject, but how did those 500 Gr Hornady solids shoot out of your rifle?
20 April 2002, 02:23
<Dr. John>old4x4,
the hornady bullets are 500gr softpoint round nose.
here is my story.....
I had a rife built out of a rem 1917 action. 26" barrel, gass bedded, mercury recoil reducer, 2-7 leupold varII. shot terrible. I tried the 440gr cast performance hard cast bullets using their load data. 8-12" groups at 100yards. I was EXTREMELY dissapointed. so, I loc-tited all screws holding my scope and free floated the barrel.
shot those 500gr RN bullets. (70gr of Varget). I should be getting somewhere around 2150f/s with the extra barrel lenght.
at 50 yards.....first group....3 shots....1/2" group. I was shocked and very very happy.
then shot 300gr Barnes x. was worried that the short bullet would not perform. 3/4" group at 100 yards. now very happy. I really wanted the 300 grainers to work because I will be using this for deer and also wanted to extend the range.travelling at around 2850 f/s. should shoot flat out to 300 yards. good enough for me.
so I love this rifle.
20 April 2002, 13:42
<500 AHR>Dr. John,
Your experience with lead bullets matches my own. I know no one that has been able to get decent let alone good groups with lead bullets from a 458 Win Mag.
Have you shot those 300gr X bullets at long range yet? I would be very interested to hear how they group at 400 yards.
Todd E
Woodleigh also make a range of .458 bullets, some with a high B.C.
I've used their 400gn Protected Point that is very spitzer like for a .458. Worked well on camel too.
www.woodleighbullets.com.au/catlog5.html
RJW
20 April 2002, 20:28
<Mitch>The 500 gr. Barnes X has a B.C. of .526 and would be at or near the top when it come to aerodynamic 458 bullets.
21 April 2002, 07:21
<Dr. John>I have not shot the 300 grainers out to 400 yards yet. once the weather gets acceptable I will.
I had contacted Barnes and they were good enough to sell me an assorted package of X bullets (400,450,500, and 600gr originals) I will be trying all of these soon. the 500grainers I tried. same accuracy as the 300 grain bullet. but I am looking for a flatter trajectory so I will be working on the other weights. so far I like the 300gr bullet.
the only way I got the 440gr hard cast bullets to shoot great was to slow down the velocity. I used 30-35gr of alliant 2400. little clover leaf at 50yards. I was just shooting off the rounds with a leupold 2-7. this made the rifle nice to shoot. should be a great 100-150yard cartridge for deer.
the more I play with this cartridge, the more I like it. very versatile.
I used to have a win mod70 safari express in 458 win mag. I got slammed in the forehead (off the bench) more often than I wanted to with that rifle (topped with a leupold 1-4). was not heavy enough. this new rifle shoots more accurately I believe because I never worry about getting slammed.
why don't more rifles come with 26" barrels? especially the 458?
21 April 2002, 08:58
<KilgoreT>I have been wondering the same question. NEI handtools has a mould for a 600 grain VLD-flat base. For a stainless Ruger #1-H, I have been considering rebarreling to .458 Lott for its extra 0.3" of freebore, when needed with 2.5" brass. I also wonder if 1:14 twist works. I'd like to play with subsonic loads as well as 500 meter targets.