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What is a Model 70 classic Safari Express 416 rem. mag worth in used, but almost new condition? Thanks for the help.
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Matt as the old sayimg goes. It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.



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Matt,
I have seen willing buyers pay as much as $2000 for your rifle, soon after Winchester's latest farewell announcement.

Now that Winchester M70's are coming back, and there is some hope that they might start making big bore M70's again, I expect prices might have moderated, but I do not have my finger on that pulse right now.

I certainly think your rifle is better than a Kimber Caprivi.

In fact I have dubbed your rifle the Winchester Denali. thumb

And while we are at it, just to broaden the scope of this thread:

What might a willing buyer pay for the Big Five version of that rifle, 1 of 125, gold lion on the floorplate, new in box, with custom shop letter, fifth of the Big Five series?
 
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What is a Model 70 classic Safari Express 416 rem. mag worth in used, but almost new condition?


$1400


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Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Yeah, or more, and a LH is at least $1700.00.
 
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I certainly think your rifle is better than a Kimber Caprivi.



Kimbers seem to be made so well, though I have never actually beheld a Caprivi. Why the bad rap on the Caprivi? I would never shell out that much money for one, but Kimbers, in general, are nice rifles in my book. From what I've read, the 375 Caprivi is quite heavy and the forend is Looong. I suspect that they shoot every bit as well as a model 70 classic, if not better, and come with a better factory trigger pull to boot.
Thanks for all of your comments. Much appreciated.


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I have one and it groups anything I put in it under 2"@ 100 yds. I'm leaving for Tanzania with it next Sunday. I taking the Remington Ammo with the Swift 400 gr. A Frame Bullets. Hope to take a Buffalo with it. I had to Bed it and adjust the trigger after I got it. I feel they are worth at least between $1500.00 to $2000.00



 
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I taking the Remington Ammo with the Swift 400 gr. A Frame Bullets. Hope to take a Buffalo with it. I had to Bed it and adjust the trigger after I got it. I feel they are worth at least between $1500.00 to $2000.00


Great choice of bullet, like any other factory rifle you have to do some minor work like bedding and trigger work. IMO the Kimber Caprivi is not a M70 or a RSM M77.


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I've been looking over the past week and have seen them listed between $1200 and $1800.


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Originally posted by RIP:
I certainly think your rifle is better than a Kimber Caprivi.



Kimbers seem to be made so well, though I have never actually beheld a Caprivi. Why the bad rap on the Caprivi? I would never shell out that much money for one, but Kimbers, in general, are nice rifles in my book. From what I've read, the 375 Caprivi is quite heavy and the forend is Looong. I suspect that they shoot every bit as well as a model 70 classic, if not better, and come with a better factory trigger pull to boot.
Thanks for all of your comments. Much appreciated.


The Kimber Caprivi is basically a Dakota 99, but with a shroud at the front receiver ring to hide the washer recoil lug.

It is a pipe action with a washer for a primary recoil lug, like a Remington 700.
But it is a CRF with Winchester style safety too.
The perfect "Remchester."

I do own a Kimber Montana in .308Win, and it has a 1:12" barrel that is only good for bullet weights up to 150 grains.
Maybe I think Kimber should have used a 1:10" twist.
Maybe Kimber is doing some other screwy things.

Why in heck does Kimber go to the trouble of hiding the washer recoil lug if it is a great thing?

At least the Winchester M70 has a one-piece receiver.
 
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What is a Model 70 classic Safari Express 416 rem. mag worth in used, but almost new condition? Thanks for the help.
Matt


Seen a used one at the last gun show. It was about 98%. Great looking wood. Asking price was $1,100 and it was still there at the end of the show.


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RIP,

I'm supprised your 1:12 308 won't go above a 150gr bullet. I'm running 175 VLD's in a 1:11 and have done the same with excelent results with a 1:13. 1:12 is a very common twist to find in rifles intended to use the 168 and 175 SMK's.

As far as the shroud on the Kimber action I don't think it was put there to hide it but moreso to act as a locator for the lug rather than pinning it.


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basically, the Caprivi is a standard length action. They mill out front and rear to stretch the box length a little. You have to push the 416Rem in to the rear of the box and then push the round in. Whereas, in my CZ I can just lay them straight in the box with room left.

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Why in heck does Kimber go to the trouble of hiding the washer recoil lug if it is a great thing?

Because the washer type lug is ugly????

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Idaho Sharpshooter,

The Caprivi is a magnum length action and is designed to take up to the 470 Capstick without any modifications. They do not mill out the front and rear to stretch the magazine box, but they put a filler in the magazine box for standard length cartridges. The rear bridge is only about 1/8" forward of the magazine and this was done to help with mounting a scope without the use of an extension ring which tends to get in the way of the ejection port.

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I have measured a Kimber Caprivi and found the action to be the same size as a Winchester M70 .375 H&H regarding the distance between action screws, front to rear, as well as overall length of the action.

However, I have not taken one out of the stock to see how Kimber did that. Afterall, the shroud that hides the detachable, washer-style recoil lug does make for a "false front" on the action. bewildered

Regardless, it is a Remchester.
 
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Originally posted by RIP:
I certainly think your rifle is better than a Kimber Caprivi.



Kimbers seem to be made so well, though I have never actually beheld a Caprivi. Why the bad rap on the Caprivi? I would never shell out that much money for one, but Kimbers, in general, are nice rifles in my book. From what I've read, the 375 Caprivi is quite heavy and the forend is Looong. I suspect that they shoot every bit as well as a model 70 classic, if not better, and come with a better factory trigger pull to boot.
Thanks for all of your comments. Much appreciated.

The 'Caprivi' is nice handling rifle, but not worth much over $1800. Why are they so much more than std. calibers in wood?
Serbington 798 'Safari' has similar handling characteristics. I wish they turned them out in .416RM.
 
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