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<Cobalt>
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First day at the range with my .458 M-70. Not current production, probably 1997, block front sling swivel and red Winchester pad. Very smooth action. Shooting 500 gr Hornadies over 62 gr of 4198, it was a pussy cat, about like field loads in my M-12. At 25 yards, off hand, it would group dead on about 3 inches. Found it at a pawn shop in like new condition. I am surprised to hear of all the QC problems with the current production M-70's. Cobalt
 
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Yow! 62 grains of 4198 seems like a major overload with 500s in a .458 Win. Max that Hodgdon lists is 58.5 at 51000 psi.
 
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No flattening of primers and no sticky bolt. Cases show no signs of over pressure. I tried 58 gr and 62 gr. Did not chrono them, but no field difference at all. Cobalt
 
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Cobalt,

In my Hodgdon reload manual is have as max load in .458

64 gr H4198 at 2072 fps with a 22" barrel.

You'll have more velocity with other powders
75 gr H335 at 2129 fps with a 22" barrel
74 gr H4895 at 2156 fps with a 22" barrel

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I found IMR 4195 to be a tad faster than H4195. I think H4195 is closer to IMR 3031. Closer to 3031 than 4195.

[This message has been edited by Colonel (edited 05-07-2002).]

 
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I will repost this to you 458 winmag shooters. I was reading that Hodgdon Benchmark closely duplicates the burn rate of IMR-3031 with 3 significant differences.
1) Much finer granules (still extruded)
2) 8% more dense
3) Insensitive to temperature variations
This seems to be the perfect powder for a 500gr bullet hunting load for the 458wm. Any thoughts? My 458 is having some fine tuning done on it and I plan to try this when I get it back from the shop.

[This message has been edited by Ralph (edited 05-07-2002).]

 
Posts: 284 | Location: Plant City, Fl,USA | Registered: 12 April 2001Reply With Quote
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Ralph,
I will wait your comments about this new powder.
I've a very nice 458 wm and I don't want to take it to Lott.
Where in the internet can I buy Swift A-frames 450 gr?
Thanks
LG
 
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Hello Lorenzo, Swift A-frame bullets are available from Graf's on the web at http://www.grafs.com

Good shooting!

 
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I get the 500 grainers going 2100 fps out of my 458 with 72 grains of VV N130.

BMG and I were shooting these (and some rather zippy 400 grainers) in my Whitworth this weekend, it does get your attention....

 
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Bpesteve, thank you very much!!
LG
 
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Lorenzo,
Another good source for shooting supplies is Midway. www.midwayusa.com
Also when I ordered some of the Wipeout bore cleaner the fellow I talked (the owner I presume) told me he had good luck with Norma powders with the 458wm easily getting between 2100-2200fps(500gr bullets) with no pressure signs. I can't recall the exact powder number but I will try to find the note I made if anyone is interested. I haven't pursued this as I can't find any Norma powder in central Florida even at the gunshows.
 
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Thanks Ralph !
LG
 
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Originally posted by Colonel:
I found IMR 4195 to be a tad faster than H4195. I think H4195 is closer to IMR 3031. Closer to 3031 than 4195.

[This message has been edited by Colonel (edited 05-07-2002).]



Is 4195 a new powder,that I'm not aware of, or is this a typo? Do you mean 4895?

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