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Just curious, does the receiver itself have to be opened up to allow for the huge rim, or just the shave the safety? Anyone with one know?
 
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For the 577NE, I would use a Hagn action (large size); far stronger and more reliable:

http://www.hagnriflesandactions.com/page05.html


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I agree the Hagn is a better choice, but it is also $2500+ more then the Ruger. That would pay for the build.
 
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I would be concerned that you cannot make the No. 1 weigh enough to make it shootable.


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I would be concerned that you cannot make the No. 1 weigh enough to make it shootable.


Ditto!

A Lott in a #1, is a lot. A 577NE, is to much of a good thing in a #1.

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Looked into this once, believe the receiver must be opened up and the top of the breechblock shaved. You might want to look into a 585 Nyati which would give identical performance but less alteration as it is rimless. Gary Reeder also has a 577 bore version which he does on a No. 1. Good luck!
 
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I think I have seen a few SSK's done this way. If memory serves me, they had a large muzzle break and added weight.


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It's a pitty you don't live in Australia, you could have a shot of my No 1 .577. I fire 750gn bullets at 2150 fps and its really really shootable. My rifle weighs 12Lbs 8oz, including 2 1 lb mercury recoil reducers added.and I find that it kicks less than my .416 Rigby loaded with 400 gn bullets at 2600 fps.

The rifle is also for sale, along with cases dies and a heap of projectiles so more's the pitty you don't live here.

Steve
 
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Did your gunsmith have to open up the action at all to allow the rim to clear? Did he have to shave / adjust / realign the block to allow the rim to clear? Importing it from AUS would probably drive the price to high for me but any input you have would be appreciated.
 
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To be honest mate I am not sure what he had to do to get the case in the action, but it works quiet well and as I said the recoil is quiet mild, to the point that people who have never shot such a big round are able to hit an A4 peice of paper constantly at 100 yards.

Steve

PS I'm happy to ship outside Oz, if you are keen and find out the relivant costs and regulations on doing it.
 
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I'd be worried about enough barrel shank thickness.
 
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I'd be worried about enough barrel shank thickness.


The Ruger #1 has enough left for the .577NE and many conversions have been done. From everyone I have talked to that is where it ends though. Any larger and there may not be enough left.
 
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Im joining a bit late; but perhaps I can offer some first hand info. I JUST bought a SSK 577Nitro conversion on a Ruger No.1(its marked as number 3 on the barrel, if that has any significance). It has a 26 inch barrel WITHOUT any muzzle break; but it does have some sort of hydraulic recoil system in the butt. From an aesthetic point Im not thrilled. That may change when I get it to the range.....

It came with a few loaded rounds and empty cases. They are tarnished brass loaded with paper patched lead bullets. The dealer wont give me the contact info of the original owner; but he says they were custom light loads for the original owner who claimed they shot with the recoil of a 30-06??? They were "supposedly" loaded with BP or BP substitute and a 300 gr bullet. Frankly given the "looks" of them Im not thrilled about shooting them.

Ive ordered some snap caps to practice. When they arrive I'll see how they load and eject. After that its off to the range....


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what sort of power can be safely achieved from the 577 conversions? Do they beat regular 577nitro doubles power 750 at 2050 or are they underloaded to be safe?
 
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I dont know about "beating" doubles; but I sure expect to shoot factory full power loads. Otherwise why have one in the first place?

Is no point having a "mine is bigger than yours" rifle if its impotent....


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The Ruger can handle high pressure loads ok,
The barrel shank is big enough. Ruger extractor
works fine with rimless cases.Going to put
my 585HE in one later on. With my case don't have
to take out much metal from the trough,
It'll run same loads, moderate to hot,
just like the FBW ones I have.Ed


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Don't worry Edelweiss---that SSK will handle anything a 577 should do. You can adjust that rear counter-coil stock for more or less give. Mine's in 600JDJ (just a 577 blown out). Great fun plinkers.


 
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Don't worry Edelweiss---that SSK will handle anything a 577 should do. You can adjust that rear counter-coil stock for more or less give. Mine's in 600JDJ (just a 577 blown out). Great fun plinkers.


Tooooo cool and you scoped it daaaaaaaaaaamn. Mine came with the rings; but I thought it was just a joke. Im looking for a replacement fixed sight to get rid of the folding sight.

Id love to hear more about your rifle. As I said I dont have much to go by since the dealer wont release the original owners info.


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Drop a line to JD Jones at SSK. He loves to talk about these big guns. I'm sure he can fill you in on it's age and other info. When I ordered my 600 from him we talked at length about his experience with both the 577 & 600 calibers. He loves that 577 & has built many. In fact he recomends the 577 over the 600 due to recoil. Him & his guys have hunted quite a bit with them. He'll tell you to keep the loads to the 1850-2050 fps range to keep the stocks from cracking on the 600's & lower recoil in the 577. I've put well over 1000 rounds through my 600 w/o any issues. Probably around 200 full house 900gr Woodleighs @ <>2000 fps & a bunch of those 800gr flat nose casts at 1500 plus a few 1040gr Beartoothe's out around 1600. Love them
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I load myRuger no 1 with 750gn bullets and get a chrony'd mv ofm 2150 fps and thats with a load that according to Graham Write is still under double rifle pressures.

Steve
 
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I just spoke to Mr Jones. He answered many of my questions and suggested I speak to the counter coil folks about the recoil system in the butt.

Mr Jones even suggested that with a scope the rifle was capable of 250 to 300 yards. While I suppose its possible and he would certainly know; for me this is a rifle for DANGEROUS Game and nothing that doesnt shoot back is dangerous at that range.

This is my "bad breath" range gun.


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Glad to hear he helped out. He's right about the range issue. Even my 600 (the 577 shoots flatter) is more accurate at 200 than you'd think. If I hold the top of the bottom heavy post on my Luepold duplex reticle on target at 200 yrds it will keep all the shots in a paper plate at 200 off sticks---probably better if you bench it.
 
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I dont know about "beating" doubles; but I sure expect to shoot factory full power loads. Otherwise why have one in the first place?

Is no point having a "mine is bigger than yours" rifle if its impotent....


You can have a gun for any reason you want, and there is nothing wrong with those who build single shots or doubles to run only at 577 short/light nitro loads.

Personally I am interested in going the other way and 'beating' double rifle power myself.

Cheers for the info Steve, that is good to know. Be in touch by PM.

Karl.
 
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Mr Jones even suggested that with a scope the rifle was capable of 250 to 300 yards. While I suppose its possible and he would certainly know; for me this is a rifle for DANGEROUS Game and nothing that doesnt shoot back is dangerous at that range.


Most folks would fire that gun hundreds of times more at the range than they ever would at DG.

Why not shoot it at long range and have some fun?

George


 
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Tooooo cool and you scoped it daaaaaaaaaaamn. Mine came with the rings; but I thought it was just a joke. Im looking for a replacement fixed sight to get rid of the folding sight.



Try New England Custom Guns.

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/

They also make some nice rear peeps and front sights.
 
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