I have been given a left handed model 70 in 7mmstw,is this action long enough for a 416 taylor or 404 jeff? Or should it be used for another type of round?
It appears to me this is a longer action then one I have seen in 458

Dave,

You have a long magnum action for 3.6" class cartridges like the 375H&H or 416 Remington. The 416 Taylor is a 3.34" or less cartridge, the 404 Jeff 3.530" or less. So your action would work with both.

Bob

Dave,
basically you can't use any of the rimmed rounds (okay, 303 if you want), the 416 rigby, the largest weatherbys, the 500's,(except mebbe the jeffery) and bigger....

450 dakota should fit just fine

jeffe

I'm an avid 416 Taylor fan, but only in standard length actions. With your rifle, I would skip the Taylor, and go with the Remington version.

Know what?

416 dakota would fit, and it wouldn't be the mondo pressure 416 rem... and you could load it "down" to 2400 fps

have something NO body around you might

jeffe

Dave - actually, jeffeosso is wrong . . . again, if you wanted a .510" diameter you could rebarrel that rifle and chamber it for the 495 A-Square. This cartridge was specifically designed for the M70. It is a 460 Weatherby magnum slightly shortened and necked up to .510 with a reworked shoulder geometry. It will duplicate factory 500 Jeffery ballistics. If you don't believe me, locate a copy of A-Squares book "Any Shot You Want" and read it for yourself.

jeffeosso, the M70 can readily be chambered in the 416 Rigby also. Actually any of the cartridges based on the 416 Rigby can readily be used in a M70. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it impossible. Afterall, USRAC, unitl recently offered the M70 in 416 Rigby through their custom shop.

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Show us PROOF, Judy. Make one!

Jeffe

[ 10-07-2003, 00:50: Message edited by: jeffeosso ]

Dave,

That is the action I am going to build a .416 Remington on (with maybe a second barrel in .458 Lott ).

The 7mmSTW cartridge is longer than either the .404 Jeffery or .416 Taylor (parent case is .458 Win. Mag.).

E-mail me if you want to talk about this.

George

[ 10-07-2003, 20:24: Message edited by: GeorgeS ]

I do not want to hijack this thread, but just for clarification.

jeffeosso, the following quotations are from your posts.

This is were you began being wrong again.
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Dave,
basically you can't use any of the rimmed rounds (okay, 303 if you want), the 416 rigby, the largest weatherbys, the 500's,(except mebbe the jeffery) and bigger....
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Your own words, pretty much sum up what you said jeffeosso. It is disgustingly obvious that you feel that no Rigby, largest Weatherby, or 500 would fit in a M70. You did say that mebbe <whatever that means> a 500 Jeffery may work.

Then you contradict your own statements by saying this. <further increasing your being wrong again>
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450 dakota should fit just fine
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The 450 Dakota is based upon the 416 Rigby case, which you had just told us in the previous sentence would not fit in a M70 no way no how!

This is double talk plain and simple. Double talk is utilized by the deceitful and the ignorant. Which are you jeffeosso, or in your case is it a combination? That would make sense. You ARE an ignorant arse pretending <being deceitful> to know something.

Finally, you seem to have figured out <most likely after a web search in which you discovered that the 450 Dakota was in fact based upon the Rigby> that you had contradicted yourself and you posted this. <the grand finale of being wrong again>
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Know what?

416 dakota would fit, and it wouldn't be the mondo pressure 416 rem... and you could load it "down" to 2400 fps
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This post is so very obviously an 'oops I screwed up in my last post and need to cover may ass' it is disgusting.

As I have said before, jeffeosso, you need to invest in better magazines. The ones you currently read are sorely lacking in technical content!

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Show us PROOF, Judy. Make one!

Jeffe

[ 10-07-2003, 00:49: Message edited by: jeffeosso ]

jeffeosso - knowing your reading skills are lacking I have posted my earlier response to what will fit in the M70. These cartridges were not fitted by me, but by the MANUFACTURES 'A-Square' and 'USRAC' <better known as Winchester>

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if you wanted a .510" diameter you could rebarrel that rifle and chamber it for the 495 A-Square. This cartridge was specifically designed for the M70. It is a 460 Weatherby magnum slightly shortened and necked up to .510 with a reworked shoulder geometry. It will duplicate factory 500 Jeffery ballistics. If you don't believe me, locate a copy of A-Squares book "Any Shot You Want" and read it for yourself.
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Regarding the 416 Rigby.
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the M70 can readily be chambered in the 416 Rigby also. Actually any of the cartridges based on the 416 Rigby can readily be used in a M70. Just because you don't know how to do it doesn't make it impossible. Afterall, USRAC, unitl recently offered the M70 in 416 Rigby through their custom shop.
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Read these quotations ten time each, and perhaps the facts will soak into that dense mass of gray goo you call a brain.

If anyone around here is a troll, jeffeosso, it is YOU.

Jeffe,
If Judy/ToddE/Axel/NRAChick/etc. were a horse, it would have been turned into dog food and glue LONG ago!

George

You guys may not want to hijack threads but you sure do a good job of turning everyone off to reading what might have been a very informative bit of dialogue.

[ 10-06-2003, 06:03: Message edited by: Frank Martinez ]

Gentlemen

Enough of this a 404 or 416 is my suggestion

/JOHAN

I'll go again with 416 dakota... would be a nice rifle, can load to hot or mild, and can shoot anything with it...

jeffe

A 404 ne or a 416 Rem would be my choices too Johan. It would be a tough choice unless you are considering the cost of reloading components. If that is the case go with the 416 Rem.

I would have to agree with Johan and D Humbarger. I think I would lean a bit toward the extra magazine capacity obtained with the 416 Rem.

All are good rounds, But the easiest to make feed properly,give one more round in the box, and to find ammo for,would be the 416 Remington Magnum! Those full length, left hand mod 70s are hard to come by, I don't think I'd use it for something that would fit in an un-altered standard 98 Mauser length action! Of course if you want a 416 Taylor, and you must use a left hand action, then it's up to you!

Of all those mentioned MY choice would be the 404, but the most practicle is still the 416 Rem Mag.

[ 10-10-2003, 19:36: Message edited by: MacD37 ]

Thanks all for the help spent some time on the phone the other night with George{ Sorry about the Yankees}, and have decided to go with either a 375 WBY, or 416 Rem, and just load accordingly