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Folks,

My gun dealer called me and said he had a 375 H&H flanged magnum, made by Simsons & Co, Suhl, Germany.

It sounds very interesting and the price is also of interest...looking for some advice...Anyone know anything about "Simson" made doubles
 
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IIRC Simpson is a second line name for JP Sauer.
The shotguns I've seen are very good quality. BUT I haven't seen a DR by them.


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I have a Simson bolt action Mauser rifle made before 1912. Very nice rifle that I have posted pictures of in other AR threads. Thjey also made shotguns and drillings. I doubt that they had any direct connection with JP Sauer though they might have got Sauer to make their guns and just branded them.

If you Google them, you will see that they made sewing machines, scooters etc. - a general industrial company owned by Jews before the Nazis took over.


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There is a very good book on the Simson lugers that details the history of the company. They were the only company allowed to refurbish and actually produce lugers during the Weimar republic. The company was "nationalized" by the Nazi's as it was Jewish owned ,by Goering who some say sent all the equipment to Kreighoff. Simson had a uniqe acceptance stamp which was a Eagle over a 6. They also made very high quality shotguns and rifles.
Their guns of all types are very well made and command very high prices particularly their lugers.-Rob


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First off, the name is Simson, not Simpson. They were located (and may still be) in Suhl, which is a relatively small city just chock-a-block full of gunmakers, optics-makers, and good engravers. Simsons are NOT second line Sauers. They are, in my opinion, having owned both, far superior to Sauers. Although it is possible Sauer may have purchased them now, they were always completely independent during their glory days, and I think still are. As you folks likely know, there were some complications for everyone in Suhl, including Zeiss, when the Russians took over the eastern zone in Germany, in which area Suhl lies.

As late as early 1983, I know they would still make double rifle and double shotgun barrel sets for their double long guns. They might still do so, though I haven't asked for the last 20 years. 1983 is when they made a matching 12 gauge set of barrels for my .470 DR which they had built around 1930.

Their double rifles were outstanding for continental work. I prefered my Simson .470 to all of my British London-made double guns, though I liked Dan'l Frasers of Edinburgh (SP?) just as much.
 
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Thank you very much folks for the info. Smiler
 
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Canuck, thanks for the info. I am thrilled to hear that my Simson from before 1912 is such a high quality. I just love the rifle and did not want to sound too pompous.....

Now I wish I can find a 404 jeffery or a 10.75X68 to match my 9.3X62.


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My Simson shotgun is great! But it looks like an almost exact twin to my Merkel shotgun and double rifle. Maybe the Sauer's are very similar too. But I always associated the Simson double guns with the Merkels, and thought there was some relationship between the two companies.

In any case, another thumbs-up on Simson.

Steve
 
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