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23 January 2014, 03:34
nitro450exp
577 3 1/4" NE pics added
Hello the camp.

Need some thoughts and advice on reloading for the 577 3 1/4" NE.
Not for a double but a sturdy single shot, so regulation is not an issue.

I was looking to use 3" data and go from there.

Any info welcome.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
23 January 2014, 17:17
cal pappas
For a single shot, use any data and loads you wish. For a single tube rifle, recoil may be a factor in heavier loads. I had a single shot Jeffery .600 I shot with everything from .45-70 equivalent to full-house loads with no accuracy problems. Recoil knocked me into next week with 900 grains and 1850 fps, however.
Cal
PS. I sold it!


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23 January 2014, 18:10
nitro450exp
Cal

QL show s data for RL 22 and IMR 4831.
With 750 gr pill good for around 2050 fps.
what powder did you get best results on your 600 ?

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
23 January 2014, 18:30
michael458
nitro450exp

I have some 577 Nitro data listed on the B&M site that you can get started with anyway, some of the work that Sam and I have done with his doubles......

Find it under Additional Research main page, all the way at the bottom a pdf document that you can download..... Maybe it gets you started anyway.....

http://www.b-mriflesandcartrid...tional-Research.html

Michael


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23 January 2014, 19:13
nitro450exp
Thanks


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
24 January 2014, 07:40
D R Hunter
Best wishes for a fun end result! clap

Break open action, falling block, or...?
Where are you getting brass?
Why to you want the 3.25" length?

Oh heck, just tell us everything!!! Big Grin


D/R Hunter

Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...


24 January 2014, 07:53
cal pappas
quote:
Originally posted by nitro450exp:
Cal

QL show s data for RL 22 and IMR 4831.
With 750 gr pill good for around 2050 fps.
what powder did you get best results on your 600 ?

Nitro


For all my nitro loads I use IMR 4831 as it fills the case to the base of the bullet except for the .450 and .475 no2s. In the .600 double I use 160 grains to the the regulated velocity of 1900fps (26-inch barrel).
Cal


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Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska
www.CalPappas.com
www.CalPappas.blogspot.com
1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
2000 Australia
2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
2013 Australia
2016 Zimbabwe
2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
2019 South Africa
2019 Botswana
2019 Zimbabwe vacation
2021 South Africa
2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later)
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24 January 2014, 16:06
nitro450exp
DR Hunter

Falling Block Works L Action.
Made in Maybee MI.
Large scale Hi Wall essentially.

Builder unknown.
From the collection of the guy who commissioned the 2 bore Jones underlever that Colin Stolzer built.

It was already 3 1/4" chamber no choice.
Bell 577 NE Basic brass can be formed into 3 1/4".

More to come.

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
24 January 2014, 18:33
D R Hunter
"More to come."

Nitro



I hope that means pic's! Big Grin


D/R Hunter

Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...


24 January 2014, 23:36
600 Overkill
My 600JDJ is a 3" 577 simply blown out to 620. For light plinking loads with cast or jacketed bullets you can use a fast-non-position sensetive powder like 5744 or Trail Boss without a filler. I have used a lot of IMR-4198 (roughly 70grs) with fiber filler & an 800gr cast bullet for around 1500 fps. If you want to juice up some 900grns then go to 4350-4831 like Cal says to fill the case or a lighter medium burn powder like Varget, 748, 4064, RL-15 types but i would use a filler with them as I've had hang-fires with them when not filling the case.
25 January 2014, 01:04
Grandpasez
I have my 585HE in a Model L FBW, a real nice action
and it takes high pressures fine, 650gr at 3000,
a 13,000 ft lb load. I fit it in a one
piece thumbhole rifle stock, pics are
in the 585HE thread.

We also use 3" 577 brass to make same bore
size 24ga FH, and chamber can use shorter magtech
brass as well as plastic cases.Ed


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25 January 2014, 02:37
nitro450exp
DR Hunter

No bandwidth PM me you email and I will send pictures.
The same shop in FL has a 600 NE if you are interested.

Nitro
28 January 2014, 23:54
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Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
22 February 2014, 02:26
bigdoggy2bore
nice gun. Any pictures of the entire gun?


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22 February 2014, 08:59
nitro450exp
I am out of town.
Will post one when I get back.
May not show much as scale will be small
This sucker has a 28" barrel.
I am thinking about 2" chop and barrel band front sight.
Add some weight in butt as it is nose heavy.
Need gun bearer any takers ?

Nitro


"Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
DRSS, BASA
470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener
22 February 2014, 22:08
Bill73
I think this gun will be a fun shoot,I like what the pics show so far beer


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