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Barnes TSX 300 grain. Killed almost everything in Africa with it and used it in Australia as well. Great bullet and great caliber. | |||
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Ive been using the 338 more than any NA round for sometime now, but yesterday I saw where Grafs had the Speer Grand Slame 285 gr. 375 bullets on sale for $17.50 per bos, and having used them some 15 or more years ago and knowing they were an awesome bullet, I bought half a dozen boxes, so my 338s are now closet Queens for an undetermined time, and the 375 is back in first place I guess for who knows how long.. You 375 shooters need to jump on this sale Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I was happy with Barnes 250 TTSX from wildebeest to eland Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Ray, do you have any load data you would share for these for 375 Ruger? If not, what velocity do you like? Thanks, Perry PB | |||
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I took my Kudu and Wildebeest with a 375. I used the 300 gr Nosler partition. the wildebeest was at 260 yards and the kudu was at about 150 yds. NRA Benefactor. Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne | |||
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NOt for the 375 Ruger, but the loading books are full of good information on the Ruger...Its a dandy and a tad better in velocity over the Holland and Holland... I shoot the 375 Holland and Holland...The 285 speer Grand Slam is one tough bullet, they penetrate like a solid and expand well indeed, Speer got it right....but I think they discontinued it this year and that is why they are on sale at $17.50 a box, I ordered an additional 6 boxes to give me a dozen boxes, that should longer than I...I push these 375 285 gr. speers at a bit over 2600 FPS Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My wife's 375 Ruger has some 200 grain GSC's and some 250-gn TTSX's waiting for a hunt. Gerard of GSC has even recommended the lightweight 200's as buffalo capable, so we may check that out one of these years. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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300 grain Swift A Frames. Swift, Silent, & Friendly | |||
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well if Gerard suggested the 200 for buffalo I would suggest they work, he tests his bullets more than most..I have some loaded up 250s and some 225 338s...GSC are the best of bullets IMO.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Federal 250gr TBBC worked great on my blue wildebeest, kudu, eland, and zebra in South Africa. All were at ranges between 110-260 yards. I did my part with shot placement and nothing ran more than 20 yards. I also flattened a bull elk at 198 yards last year in NM. With the 250 gr TBBC you have a great blend of speed and the ability to take raking shots at distances up to 250-300 yards. | |||
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JOe, Good to know that Federal has continued the quality of those good bullets, sometimes these buyout folks, tend to try an improve something thats not broke, so I sit and watch..Thanks for the update.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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A slightly different angle to this thread: From my experience with clients and for myself, there is nothing like confidence in a rifle for the hunter to shoot well, and nothing builds confidence like an accurate load in your rifle. Almost all 375 bullets are strong enough, so I would find the one that the rifle likes the most. | |||
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I have taken only one animal with a 300 gr solid from my 375 H&H and that was a head shot on a bull hippo. all others including cape buffalo and eland were shot with a 375 H&H with 300 gr Nosler partitions and all were one shot kills. Of course this is by following the rule of placing those .375 300 gr bullets in the right place, no matter what one uses the 375 H&H rifle for! .....................................  MacD37....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I had Great luck with the Sierra GK in 250 gr. It held up well on my Eland and Kudu. Guns and hunting | |||
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Most of you fellas have shot a lot more of these animals than I have. But, I did kill a big eland, kudu, oryx (reportedly a tough animal), zebra (also reputed to be tough), red hartebeest and 400+ pound red stag with a 300 H&H using Federal factory loaded the Barnes 180 TSX (when the still offered that). It chrono'd a rather modest 2880 fps in my Ruger No. 1. It worked very well on all of them. I can't imagine that any decent 375 bullet wouldn't do the same, if not more so. Maybe if the bullet was too tough to expand much, it would be less effective. But otherwise? | |||
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Barnes 270 Gr. TSX is my favorite | |||
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 Perfect performance on Kudu and Eland.USMC Retired DSC Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I've never been to Namibia but ranges can be long. That means that a person wants to know what their bullet may do from 250-400 yards, both in terms of drop and in terms of winddrift. In general for big animals there is a sliding scale where larger caliber are more effective. 270's and 7mm will work, 30 cal would be a tad better, 338 even more so, then 375 and 416. However, this must be balanced with long distance drop and winddrift, so that a 416 Rigby needs to be loaded hot, say a 350gnTTSX at 2825fps, producing only 12" drift at 400yard in a 10mph wind. Anything less and one would prefer a sleek 375 bullet. It's hard to get a 375 bullet that only drfits 12" at 400yards. To beat that it would be easier to use a 338WinMag 225gnTTSX at 2830fps and an 11inch drift at 400yards. You can see where this leads. A 300WinMag pushing a 200gn bullet at 2800-2850 would also do nicely. A 200gn LRX at 2850 would only drift 11.3" at 400 yards. So if limited to the 375H&H, I would look at the BC of bullets for choices in Namibia. And if a second rifle is OK, then I would consider a 338WM or 300mag for longrange oryx. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Bottom line is Im pretty sure you could shoot Marsh mellows in a 375 and kill Eland or Buffalo! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I don't know... S'mores maybe, but plain marshmallows? That's just wrong. | |||
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My latest blog is entitled: "One Rifle, One load". Several examples are given with the .375 H&H as the last. I chose the 300gr AccuBond at 2650 fps (quite reasonable depending on barrel length and powder used) with a BC of .485. The ambient conditions were for an African context (not sure how precise they might be in a given context): Altitude between 800 to 1200 ft, temp @ 110 F, RH @ 50%. At 400 yards: about +2050 fps/+2800 ft-lbs, -18.5", drift in 10 mph crosswind = +/- 11". Having some experience with the 250gr/9.3 on bear, I consider the larger bores as the 9.3, .375", etc to be as capable as their equivalent in the Partition. Therefore I suggested the 300gr AB as my choice as a "One Rife, One Load" in the .375 H&H for world-wide hunting of any soft-skinned game from small to large under any and all conditions to 500 yards where it would still be making +1900 fps/+2400 ft-lbs energy. I really can't think of a better rifle/load for the .375 H&H than that combo for any hunting except where a solid is called for. Bob www.bigbores.ca "Let every created thing give praise to the LORD, for he issued his command, and they came into being" - King David, Psalm 148 (NLT) | |||
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Bob, You are usually pretty good at giving us load data, but I don't recall if you said what powder and charge you used for that .375 H&H 2650 fps load with the Nosler 300-gr AB. My first trip to Africa I used the old Barnes 300-gr X-Bullet in my .375 H&H. 72.0 grains RL-15. I was getting right at 2528 fps 5-yard instrumental velocity from a 24" Douglas barrel. That was an average of 9 shots at 96 degrees F. St.dev. for the 9 shots was 9 fps. All 3 of the 3 shot groups were 0.75 MOA or better at 115 yards. Classic ballistics.  Classic one-shot kill on my first African critter too, a trophy blue wildebeest bull. Also about your blog: The 8th ed. Nosler manual shows .308-caliber bullets offered by Nosler number THIRTY-ONE ! And I agree the 200-gr Nosler AB would be my pick for whatever .300 Magnum, great for eland too, no doubt. Good on you too for recommending the 400-gr .458-cal as best single bullet weight for the .458 WIN Mag. I agree, a TSX type and a brass FN solid would cover it all, near and far, from biggest and toughest to less big and tough. Velocities 2200 fps to 2600 fps, your choice. | |||
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Im curious about those 400 and 600 pound Eland, somebody is shooting weanlings still sucking milk!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My experience with 300gr .375 AB: ~2350 fps impact on 600 to 700 kg Bull Moose. 2nd shot struck heavy bone dropped DRT. Bullet shattered front half done blowed off! Shallow penetration 70% weight retention low for bonded core. Done experimenting with these. Loading 270gr TSX and 300gr CEB MTH from now on.  | |||
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I am a fan of the 270 TSX in the 375 Ruger for moose. It is the bullet that I use. I have zero complaints with it. In my opinion though that bullet does not look bad considering it is a lead core and smacking heavy bone. I have the urge to try the 270 grain LRX. From pictures I have seen it looks like it performs well, from the few recovered from African game. The BC of the bullet is a definite plus on velocity retention. Not that is requirement for the distances that I shoot. The TSX certainly groups very accurately in my rifles. | |||
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I use what my gun likes. It shoots tighter groups with the 300 grain TSX than any other TSX or TTSX bullet so that's what I use. I've used it on five trips to Africa taking Buffalo to Steenbok and a whole bunch of animals in between ... except for Eland, I've been skunked on those. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Id be hard pressed to refuse to hunt anything with my 30-06 and 200 gr. nosler partitions or accubonds short of elephant perhaps..The largest animal Ive shot with that load was a big Bison and/or a Charlias bull and it killed clean on both with shoulder shots..bullet performance was excellent in both instances with perfect mushrooms (accubonds) That Charlais bull, dumped me and my horse once in the thick stuff, and chased me to hell and back on foot another time then took a fender off my neighbors pickup..Revenge is sweet, but that hunt didn't stop there, and the ending was a cartoon carnival. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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