What is more likely to be harder on the lands of your barrel?

25 February 2013, 06:47

SR4759

Sorry Grenadier
I was not responding to your post.
I was responding to the use of any copper or copper alloy bullets as a major wear factor in a large bore rifle.

The Norma and Hornady bullets are sporting bullets. The Hornady FMJs were mostly designed for big bore rifles.

Wearing out a big bore does no seem to be a problem for anyone but the original poster.

28 February 2013, 23:45

michael458

I think shootwhichway should use nothing but these in the future............

http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html

The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List!
Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom"

I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else.

28 February 2013, 23:56

shootaway

Michael stop feeding everyone the bullshit about the rifles and bullets you are trying to sell.Soon everyone will discover the bullshit and then what?

I had enough of you people.
Go get a job and stop this nonsense.

01 March 2013, 00:09

505G

shootaway

I might have my major disagreements with Michael
but BS is not one of them and you of all people accusing someone else of Bullshit really is the pot calling the kettle black !!!

And learn to write English.

01 March 2013, 00:12

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
shootaway

I might have my major disagreements with Michael
but BS is not one of them and you of all people accusing someone else of Bullshit really is the pot calling the kettle black !!!

And learn to write English.

Call me whatever you want but bullshitter is something I have never been called in my life!

01 March 2013, 00:19

Todd Williams

Something I find interesting Michael is that even after firing those OVERSIZED STEEL bullets down the barrel, the rifling looks intact and crisp with sharp edges.

So much for the theory that a barrel is only good for 50 rounds or so with incessant intermediate cleaning between sessions, eh?

I'm expecting a very nice Searcy 500NE to be hitting the used market soon. I predict it will be sold due to the barrels being shot out and therefore only capable of 1" regulation between the barrels at 50 yards. Off hand, it will probably shoot more like a shotgun using oversized turkey loads in an Improved Cylinder choke! I'll be more than happy to give it a nice home for used and worn out double rifles. It can sit right next to my other "ruined" barreled doubles!

By the way, looks like a steel bullet is just the ticket for cleaning brass fouling!!

01 March 2013, 00:21

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
shootaway

I might have my major disagreements with Michael
but BS is not one of them and you of all people accusing someone else of Bullshit really is the pot calling the kettle black !!!

And learn to write English.
Call me whatever you want but bullshitter is something I have never been called in my life!

Bullshitter!!

Now you have!!

01 March 2013, 00:22

505G

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Call me whatever you want but bullshitter is something I have never been called in my life!

Really ?

I think quite a few in this thread reckon you
are full of BS.

"A sighting in tip for open sight rifles".

Nearly every person in the above thread
called you out on sighting in as being wrong
in a major way yet you continue to give
"advice" to people who asked on that thread
even though it was wrong advice.

I reckon you must be one of those indignant
French Canadians who can't seem to go with
the flow and always want to cause trouble.

01 March 2013, 00:25

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Call me whatever you want but bullshitter is something I have never been called in my life!

Really ?

I think quite a few in this thread reckon you
are full of BS.

"A sighting in tip for open sight rifles".

And this thread.

Yeah the ones that do not know how to shoot! ...and the been there done that wrong crowd!

01 March 2013, 00:28

505G

Ha, that takes the cake considering
you put up a rifle target that looked
like it had been hit with a shotgun.

If you are going to accuse people of
not being able to shoot, at least be
able to shot well yourself - ie if you
want to talk the walk make sure you can
walk the walk.

01 March 2013, 00:32

shootaway

Never had a problem with taking second or third in line as long as you show me you belong in front.

01 March 2013, 01:03

SR4759

Hey Blastaway
I shot my first deer more than 50 years ago with iron sights.
What can you tell us about your game taking with iron sights? Anything other than a sight in target?

01 March 2013, 01:06

The Metalsmith

Shootaway, your stupidity is borderline legendary. Let me ask you this in complete sincerity: Do you have any academic understanding of metallurgy, mechanics, physics? Do you understand the chain of events that occurs when you pull the trigger and fire a cartridge?

01 March 2013, 01:19

505G

quote:
Originally posted by SR4759:
Hey Blastaway
I shot my first deer more than 50 years ago with iron sights.
What can you tell us about your game taking with iron sights?
Anything other than a sight in target?

Shootaway

That is a damn good question.

Tell us what game you have shot in total
and with open sights.

I would be really interested to know.

01 March 2013, 06:57

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
worst thing to happen to a barrel? the nut on the end of the cleaning rod

note the words of wisdom here

01 March 2013, 09:10

Nakihunter

Michael
That is a great new innovation that needs to be patented!

How to get rid of brass barrel fouling? Shoot steel bullets! Look at the proof in the grooves on the bullets

Was that you or Sam?

Just kidding!

quote:
Originally posted by michael458:
I think shootwhichway should use nothing but these in the future............

01 March 2013, 17:44

michael458

quote:
Michael
That is a great new innovation that needs to be patented!

How to get rid of brass barrel fouling? Shoot steel bullets! Look at the proof in the grooves on the bullets

Naki

Busted! Damn... I love the CLEANING aspect of this whole thing..... After all, I ain't much for cleaning big bore rifles, just don't require it you see. But after several thousand brass and copper solids, I reckon a few steel bullets to clean it out is a pretty good idea to me! HEH HEH............

I remember once being in Alaska on a moose hunt. Had a nice 1885 45/70 single shot on that hunt. After about 5 days of being in the rain/snow continuous my hunting partner just happened to look at the muzzle of the rifle and it was totally coating in rust. Looking at the bore, it was totally coated in rust as well.

"Oh my God" he stated, eyes wide, "You better get a cleaning rod and clean that bore", to which I flatly stated "Hell No, soon as I shoot a moose, that bore will be clean again, one bullet down the bore will clean it out!"........ Which in a day or so, came true, clean as a whistle! No need wasting time on such.........

01 March 2013, 23:28

SR4759

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
quote:
Originally posted by SR4759:
Hey Blastaway
I shot my first deer more than 50 years ago with iron sights.
What can you tell us about your game taking with iron sights?
Anything other than a sight in target?

Shootaway

That is a damn good question.

Tell us what game you have shot in total
and with open sights.

I would be really interested to know.

Where did shootaway go?

02 March 2013, 00:08

505G

Hasn't got anything to say ??? LOL

How unusual.

02 March 2013, 02:38

shootaway

[URL=

]March 1[/URL]
The cold weather is effecting my muscles and I am not shooting a tighter group.

02 March 2013, 02:52

jorge

quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
[URL= ]March 1[/URL]
The cold weather is ~~effecting~~ affecting affecting my ~~muscles~~ single cell amoeba brain and I am not ~~shooting a tighter group~~ making any sense

02 March 2013, 03:35

michael458

I had no idea a shotgun could possibly shoot that good at 100 yards...
Shit, I may have to get one of those.......

Michael

02 March 2013, 03:36

michael458

quote:
Originally posted by 505G:
Hasn't got anything to say ??? LOL

How unusual.

Nigel, he is a dumbass, he don't even know what to say...

Momma dropped him on his head when he was a baby.....

M

02 March 2013, 03:55

Cross L

quote:
Originally posted by michael458:
I had no idea a shotgun could possibly shoot that good at 100 yards...
Shit, I may have to get one of those.......

Michael

XXFULL choke--

we use it in texas for dove--

02 March 2013, 05:01

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by Cross L:
quote:
Originally posted by michael458:
I had no idea a shotgun could possibly shoot that good at 100 yards...
Shit, I may have to get one of those.......

Michael

XXFULL choke--

we use it in texas for dove--

With the size of those pellets, I'm thinking George has a pretty good Goose Gun there. Certainly adequate for Turkeys. I'm just not sure those birds need buckshot to take them down however. #2's and 4's have always worked for me.

02 March 2013, 06:15

LionHunter

quote:
Originally posted by michael458:
I had no idea a shotgun could possibly shoot that good at 100 yards...
Shit, I may have to get one of those.......

Michael

Hey Pal,

When you find them, get two, 'cause I damn sure need one myself!

02 March 2013, 06:49

mete

It's an old myth that barrels "erode". Actually the damage is from the heat of combustion. The study was done years ago ,a proper metallurgical study ,showing that the barrel absorbed carbon when hot from combustion .In the subsequent heating and cooling the steel developed cracks.
If you really want wear and erosion then look for abrasives such as sand getting on the cartridges and in the barrel.Shoot on a dusty sandy range ? Seen any worn out carbide sizing dies ? It's from the sand . Remember sand is an abrasive as in sandpaper !
Maybe some of you middle east service veterans can give us some stories like how fast a sand storm can screw up equipment !!