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Anyone used them? I have a bunch and a 375 Weatherby that can shoot them at 2500 fps with mild pressure. Thinking of trying them this fall.


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I have some ready too -- Atkinson's advice at the time was enthusiastic.


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Should kill any thing that you shoot in the right spot.

A 350 416 works very well at that speed I don't know why a 350 375 wouldn't do so as well.
 
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Hey Chuck,

350 grains in .375" should work fine.
... Until you get a shot 200-350 yards and wish that you had something flatter.

The idea of shooting heavy for calibre lead core still has a romantic resonance and I picked up a bunch of 300 grain .338's a few years ago. But I've not gotten around to using the recent bunch on game. The heavy bullets did not print closely to the same point of impact as, say, a 225 TTSX. I did shoot some warthogs around a waterhole 20+ years ago with 300 grain Barnes copper-lead roundnoses, a sister technology to these Woodleighs. The relatively large warthogs just laid over dead. Very impressive. But again, when walking around after a general bag I am reluctant to give up the longer range options. I think that this .338" experience would apply to .375", too.


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They work great for Cape Buffalo, but on Elk and lighter animals, you'll give up some trajectory for a bullet weight that's not really needed for such game.
 
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I agree. I have used the Sierra Game King in 250 grains for elk and bear and Bison. I think on elk and bear, especially bear, it's a bit of overkill. Have used the 235 gr Barnes TSX as well. Tears up way too much meat. From 250 to the 270 gr should be perfect. IMHO.
 
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As Biebs and Paso said, great on buffalo but not really needed in NA. If your shots are inside 300 yards they will certainly be alright and beyond that you need to have the range figured out and know your trajectory.
Also I have used the 235's and they DO spoil a lot of meat. To my mind the 250TTSX and 270's ought to be the ticket on elk.


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Chuck,
I got to thinking, (I know, finally) that the 350 gr might do a fantastic job. Slow it down enough that the amount of meat damage could be held to a minimum. I used a .416 Remington on an elk one year to just see what it did and I've torn up more meat on an elk with just a 30-06. The slow bullet just doesn't cause the hydrostatic shock that the lighter, faster bullets causes. Might be a hell of a plan.\
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Without a doubt it will kill any elk alive but then again so will most .375 bullets. I really don't think the added punch and penetration of this bullet buys you alot whwn used on relatively small animals like elk.

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Thanks guys, I have my 270 Weatherby shooting 150g Partitions at 3200 fps for flat shooting, but where I'm going shots will be under 300 yards and probably under 150. Only hunting cow elk for the freezer so looking for a bit of novelty this year.


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Only hunting cow elk for the freezer so looking for a bit of novelty this year


I shot plenty of game with different calibers just for that reason alone.
 
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Its a lot of bullet but I'm sure it would work. The Woodleigh roundnoses always setup positively.

I think you could actually drop all the way down to the 270grain offerings if you wanted some more range. There is a fashion for ultra heavy bullets but 270 grains is still a BIG GAME bullet after all in a 375, not some squib load designed for varmints and small hogs.

Aussies for example use the 270gn protected points at 2700-2800fps to great effect on feral cattle, that's a 2000lb+ animal.
 
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Only hunting cow elk for the freezer so looking for a bit of novelty this year.

Sounds like an excellent reason to use them. They were very accurate in my H&H.


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Originally posted by Biebs:
They work great for Cape Buffalo, but on Elk and lighter animals, you'll give up some trajectory for a bullet weight that's not really needed for such game.


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Agree, but I do have six boxes of the Woodleigh 350g PPs saying use me use me! lol


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Chuck



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I shot an elk and a Bison with my 375 and the 350 gr. Woodleigh PP. The Bison was a 100 yard shot to the shoulder, it broke both shoulders and exited leaving a 2 inch exit hole..He walked around in a circle and fell dead..I shot my elk at 200 yards in the last rib and it came out in the neck near the head leaving a 1.5 exit hole..Internal damage was great..As to trajectory, A 350 gr. bullet at 2500 FPS shoots as flat as a 300 gr. bullet at 2500 FPS where most folks shoot the 300 gr. in their .375s anyway, so I don't see where you would be at any kind of a disadvantage..I suppose a 300 gr at 2600 would be flatter, but I also bet you will wiggle off center more than that..trajectory would be a couple of inches at most..but the light bullets from 235 to 300 are still excellent elk rounds..

I also used tested the 350 gr. PP and RN on Cape Buffalo and other stuff for Geoff (Woodleigh)and had a small hand in their developement and was rewarded with 4 boxes of each...
I also used the 300 gr. Woodleigh in my .338 Win. on an elk going away, the bullet caught him between the hams at 50 yards and rolled him up in a ball..that bullet exited in front of his shoulder with a one inch exit hole spewing blood..damage was intensive...Another took a broadside shot at 325 yards breaking the shoulder and exiting behind the other, his rear end gave way and he reared over backwards sticking his horns in the dirt and all I had to do was tie up a leg to a tree and gut him like that, otherwise he would have rolled to the bottom, and in Idaho the bottom is a long ways down.

As you can see, I have become a fan of heavy Woodleigh bullets. But the 250 and 300 gr. Sierras are great elk bullets also. Most of my friends locally use those bullets and always roll them out on the coffee table down town, littley mushrooms all, and much jabber to me and my expensive bullets, all I can say is "They lack penetration? or you wouldn't have them! shocker rotflmo

Additionally I found the PP was a much tougher bullet than the RN, and by design for sure..I like the RN for bush veld and in Idahos black timber swamps, and herd hunting buffalo. The PP is probably the better all around bullet and does give better penetration, but that RN will expand to a 50 cent piece at times and is pure distruction on what it encounters..Love them both.


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Doesn't Norma offer these same 350 grain loads in their P.H. line of ammo at 2,300 ft/sec?
 
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