I'm curious (about everything which is getting to be a real pain in the butt) as to the new mag mauser actions from different places. Does anyone know if they are just reverse engineered from an existing action or are they using original blueprints? I know there is more than one place making these types of actions, so they could each be doing it differently. I know someone posted something from golmatic.de about their action. Anyone know the skinny on this? Man I'd love to have a copy of the Mauser blueprint for the magnum size action, maybe I can buy one somewhere! I wish.

The Reimer Johannsen magnum mauser action tries to be a faithful reproduction of the original Brevex magnum mauser action. The Granite Mountain and Olympic Arms Ultramag differ from the original design.

Johannsen, Vektor & Granite Mountain actions all closely approximate the appearance and features of original Oberndorf magnum Mausers with slight deviations.



Johannsen:





Vektor:





Granite Mountain:





The Brevex looks more like a jumbo FN:





The Olympic Arms Ultra Mag is an improved version of the Brno ZKK-602:





The Montana Professional Hunter action has characteristics of 98 Mausers and the pre-64 M-70:





Some folks include the Enfield P-14 & 17 and Remington 30s as Mauser derived magnum length actions:





And of course there's the popular Brno CZ-550:

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Alf & FLA3006

What about Hartmann und Weiss what action do they use and is it mauser magnum copy ?

Nice info by the way.

Cheers,

Andr�

On this site there is two nice pictures of hartmann & weiss rifles

If you read German then even better

http://www.jagen-weltweit.de/artikelbeitrag/artikelbeitrag_4980.html

Cheers,

Andr�

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Johannsen is used by Mauser, SIG and Hartmann & Weiss. ALF or someone else correct me if I'm wrong?

Here's some info on the kind of bucks a new German magnum Mauser can cost !

http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/mauser_m98/index.htm

I saw the mauser magnums at IWA 2004 in N�rnberg and was not inpresed with the metal work on the standard models.
Looks too much like blaser parts and that new 203 you can se that sig corp has bought mauser. Mauser will never be the same. I you want a new "mauser" type rifle go to an German or ferlach gunsmith pay the money and be happy, they will deliver the satisfaction that you are looking for.
It is cheeper to get the right rifle the first time then to own many compromises.
I saw some of josef just�s rifles and they where very nice.


Cheers,

Andr�

Hi fla3006,
the Hartmann & Weiss Magnum action ist different to the Prechtel action which is used by Johannsen, Mauser etc.
H&W makes their own actions.
Robert

Does anyone know how the Ritterbusch actions are?

Erik D.

Hello Erik,
what do you mean with how they are? Compare to what? If I compare them to Hartmann & Weiss ( he is lesser quality), Prechtel and Johannson ( he is equal quality ).
Hartmann & Weiss are better suited to the .505 Gibbs than the Prechtel action because they have a wider lug on the left side, they are best quality.
Prechtel ( Johannson ) is a fine quality action for anything up and including .500 Jeffery
Ritterbusch made the action to order. You can get a super magnum action from him which has a bold diameter of 20 mm which is very good for the .585 Nyati or .577 Tyrannosaur.
Any further questions - ask for!
Robert

I appreciate all the good info guys. I don't suppose anyone has contact info for Casey Lewis in the RSA? I'd be curious as to the possibility of obtaining copies of the blueprints if he has an original. I don't know the proper etiquette for enquiring into that as he may think someone would use them commercially and be a competitor(if he is producing actions or affiliated with a company that does). I'd think they would look wonderful framed and matted and hung on my wall! Wonder if anyone would sell copies to regular people, not manufacturers.

Hello Erik,
this is related to your questions.

Prechtel:
As close to the original Mauser Magnum as possible with only some small modifications for today�s higher pressure cartridges like smaller firing pin diameter. Very reliable rifles with very good workmanship on the metalwork like square corners. Stock work very good looking, always glass bedded actions. Some limited but interesting options possible like an �integral barrel� where the sight base and the sling ring is milled out of the barrel material. Reasonable priced.
For the action you could choose between different steel sorts for color case hardening or not.
Very good price/work relationship

Johannsen:
Use the same action as above, good workmanship, sometimes new techniques used for joining the sight to the barrel ( gluing ). Very short sight rib ( it is difficult and expensive to make a real quarter rib ). Reasonable priced

Ritterbusch:
I would like to describe it as a freestyle Mauser Magnum action. A full range of true left and right actions in four different sizes from small to super magnum are available. All made to order. His metal work show sometimes rounded corners on the metal side. Excellent stocks with top English surface, he needs no glassbedding to build good hunting rifles.
Any option possible, higher priced, smallest quantities build.

Yes, the actions are made in Lithuania ( Littauen ). The actions are made by him or better said under his supervision. He starts the hole thing in Lithuania, because Gottfried Prechtel build the 200 commemorative 1998 Mauser Magnums, 100 each in .375H&H and 100each in .416 Rigby for Mauser. He has redraw all the drawings and build a lot of special machinery. He is a gun maker and a machine builder, I know that he earns his money with his special machines he builds and sells ( small milling and turning machines both conventional and CNC).
The actions a milled and grinded in Lithuania, but assembled, checked and polished in Weinheim/Germany in his home shop. Visit his webside for some information ( www.golmatic.de ).


Let me answer your Ritterbusch source question in this way: Some secrets are so secret that anybody knows it but still the owner of the secret did not know it and try to hide it further� .
As I told you earlier he makes full and true left side actins going so far that even the safety is on the left side.

double tap -- sorry for the extra post

Gentlemen! Warning! Clicking on the golmatic url given in Robert's post above then following a few "waffen" links and selecting "gallery" at the bottom of the page will lead you to some really excellently photographed firearms at this web page that will waste a considerable amount of your time... and quite possibly be dangerous to your wallet.

I'm not much for that garish German engraving that can involve wild boars and naked women racing up and down the barrel of a gun. At the websites above they have some really nice elegant scoll engraving....

It is worth a look...

jpb