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This fun post means I guess, write it all down. Some on here think I have stole cartridge ideas. And it is becoming a funny deal, so here is a joking way to solve it. You got to mention it first somewhere in writing. So here is a list of my big bore stuff with with the lengths involved.Will doing this preclude folks claiming stuff by changing the lengths in the future?? The 499HE, rimmed straight case made from 475#2 ,every length is my ideas. But as of DEC 15 09-- It will be made from 450#2 cases, which when I made cases back in the 90s I wanted, but couldn't find any. This is as per a suggestion by Jack and others and the finding that we now have a big supply of 450 #2 and no run made of 475 #2 that was supposed to be. 585 Short HE, straight rimless case, from 505 Gibbs brass headspacing on mouth and extractor, all lengths my ideas. 585 HE, belted straight case, made from Nyati brass or Nyati clones, .630-640" base, belt .650-660", all lengths from 3.1" on up, are my ideas. All lengths below 2.93" are my ideas, when I was experimenting with the short HE All those in between 2.93" and 3'1" like Boomies 3" belong to him and others even though his original wasn't from Nyati case. But it must be from a Nyati heft case to be the best with good radius in inside corner and good taper. 700HE- belted straight case, made from bmg brass with bases .750-780", belts .765-.800", any size rim, from 3.1" on up, are my ideas. Shorter ones like the 3 " 700DA is others. They can be up to 4.35" max without adding on more length. And adding on more length is my idea also, on all these cases. 877HE- Belted straight case, with .960" base, .985" belt, any size rim, made from 20mm Oerlikon brass, all lengths my ideas. They are 4.35" max without soldering or gluing on or epoxying on more, which are my ideas too. Now you can take any of these and neck them down and it is your name, I don't claim necked cases. You can't Ackleyize my cases, as that is one of my ideas, you must neck them down first to put another name on them. You can't put straight sections on cases up on the mouth of cases and claim it, as that also is my ideas. And speaking of what is..... in 99 at the Shot Show, Johnny Roland interviewed me for his show, with a 3" belted 700 case in my hand along with 458HE, 510HE, and 585HE. The show ran on satellite tv feed.. This was the period when we started experimenting with bmg cases by cutting cases at the shoulder(3") and putting belts on BMGs. I'd already had been belting smaller cases for 6-7 years. As I went further along my math showed me cases needed to be longer to get power I wanted.And I figured how to expand cases and do belt also, making the long case. On a later satellite feed we had a bunch of our wildcats and included was different lengths of belted 700 cases up to 3.5" . By the time I got on here I had them up to full 3.87" length.During these early years I never pushed the 700s as I figured I'd never be able to afford or find barrels and or afford and find big enough actions. At first, like I had done on all my smaller wildcats, I annealed and used expanders up to the time we started 12ga FH, and after I fireformed the 12ga FH and got procedure worked out, I set up barrel with a cap for the 700HE long and fireformed them and for shorter ones cut them off. So it is in writing for whatever it is worth. Not much I feel. Remember RJ the crooked gun writer, and what he did. Ed MZEE WA SIKU | ||
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Did I ever tell you that I actually invented the internet? Al Gore stole the idea from me. I invented gunpowder too. The chinese stole that one from me. Bastards... Seriously Ed, the time stamp on the posts here pretty much tells us you were out front. Not daydreaming, but doing things. That's what counts. Rich | |||
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Oh I thought you invented global warming and he stole that from you. Can you tell me how to get our fall weather back. Well it's kind of a funny deal like like the picture in other PH thread. Maybe helps get rid misunderstandings, and really if there has been any I'm sorry if I contributed to that by not keeping things clear.Ed PS-Another wild thing that needs on paper is I'm first one to use RE17 powder in shotgun cases and write it all up over the net on forums. MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Ed, All I know is that I need to get my PH so I can put your 700H on it… I’ll be glad to help spread your publicity when I go back to Africa and kill a bunch more Buff and maybe a couple eles with it!!! I’ve got all that brass with your head stamp all polished up and waiting!!! ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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