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375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended?
24 December 2008, 13:32
ovny375 H&H Magnum for hunt great bears. Recommended?
I give you leave a link where I read a comment on the 375 H & H Magnum in which put that the Britishcartridge is not suitable for hunt big bears in the United States. what do you think about?
A greeting,
Oscar.
The link:
http://www.ammo-one.com/375HH.html
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24 December 2008, 13:44
Dr. LouThe 375 H&H: "It is used in Africa on the
great plains and in
North America , but
not recommended for
hunting the Great Bears."

Someone has been smoking their lunch.
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24 December 2008, 14:40
ovnyquote:
Originally posted by Dr. Lou:
Someone has been smoking their lunch.
Jejeje, I agree with you jajaja.
Oscar.
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24 December 2008, 16:01
Sid Post
That website has the Junior High School Keyboard Commando feel. Little Johnny needs to put the keyboard down and go back to recess with his friend on the playground.
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24 December 2008, 16:17
ovnyI am a little shocked when I read that opinion, because a cartridge amply proved they face questioning juvenile animals (bear versus elephant) that normally people hunting with them.
A greeting,
Oscar.
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24 December 2008, 18:44
MacD37Don't worry about it Ovny, the 375 H&H is up to takeing any bear that ever lived, cleanly! The 375H&H is the most commonly chambered rifle carried by bear guides in Alaska, and Canada!
That web-site looks very profesional, but with that statement they lost all credibility with me!

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24 December 2008, 20:48
ovnyquote:
Don't worry about it Ovny, the 375 H&H is up to takeing any bear that ever lived, cleanly! The 375H&H is the most commonly chambered rifle carried by bear guides in Alaska, and Canada!
That web-site looks very profesional, but with that statement they lost all credibility with me!
I am glad to receive your message and your opinion. Actually I thought that this announcement was ridiculous, so I wanted to share it with you and hear your opinion.
Merry Christmas and a hug,
Oscar.
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24 December 2008, 21:12
lawdogsoEvery remote fishing village in Alaska has 375 shells . If I had to take anything bear hunting up there it would be a 375 H&H.
24 December 2008, 22:24
ovnyquote:
Every remote fishing village in Alaska has 375 shells . If I had to take anything bear hunting up there it would be a 375 H&H.
I also have a 338 Winchester Magnum and I have read that this cartridge is quite acceptable to hunt bears.
Oscar.
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25 December 2008, 17:51
Strut10The .338 Win Mag is also a very respected big bear masher. The .375 H&H just does it one better. Take either to Alaska and lay a big one low.

Founder....the OTPG
25 December 2008, 22:23
ovnyquote:
The .338 Win Mag is also a very respected big bear masher. The .375 H&H just does it one better. Take either to Alaska and lay a big one low.
Founder....the OTPG
I use it for wild boar raids in my country, but I have no doubt that the 338 Win Mag in Alaska with bullets of 250 grains can be a great choice for cutting big bears, but taking a 375, I would opt for the latter jejeje.
Oscar.
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25 December 2008, 23:48
Thomas JonesNever been to Alaska and never hunted big bears. But I have spent alot of time shooting reloading and reading about rifles and hunting.
I bet if you used a 300 grain solid on a big bear you would likly get a pencil through and not the best bullet performance.
But it would still poke a big hole in old MR Griz.
But With a good expending bullets like a partition or a 270 grain hornady.
Of course it would do the job as well as anyting.
If I ever go to the great north in search of bear, I can't think of a better cartridge than a properly loaed .375 H&H.
Or mabye I would say, whatever is the most powerfull round you can shoot well, with and this is criticl, THE RIGHT BULLET.
...tj3006
freedom1st
26 December 2008, 00:16
adrook"not recommended for
hunting the Great Bears."
That has to rate as one of the stupidest things I have ever read.

26 December 2008, 00:38
ovnyI have always been a lover of 375 H & H Magnum, today I own a rifle of this ever bine weighted cartridge, and me to read what they put on that site I was a little disappointed.
Greetings and thanks,
Oscar.
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26 December 2008, 00:53
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}"But not recomended for hunting the great bears" Wow, what kind of a statement is that in reguard to the .375H&H. Guess a whole lot of us are under gunned! The 3/8"H&H is still my choice for a primary hunting rifle for large heavy and dangerous critters. Rodney.
26 December 2008, 02:22
AbobI live in Alaska, home of the "great bears" (grizzly, brown, polar) and no one has ever questioned the 375 H&H; certainly we could start an argument over which is best, but no one who knows the big bears would argue that the 375 H&H, with the right bullet, in the hands of a competent hunter is more than enough for any bear that walks on God's green earth
Jim
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26 December 2008, 02:29
ovnyquote:
Originally posted by Rodney H.{500Jeffery}:
"But not recomended for hunting the great bears" Wow, what kind of a statement is that in reguard to the .375H&H. Guess a whole lot of us are under gunned! The 3/8"H&H is still my choice for a primary hunting rifle for large heavy and dangerous critters. Rodney.
Well, I would not give it much importance, I put it as simple curiosity can be a simple error. What has become clear is that the old English caliber can bring down property with a bear of the largest in the world.
Oscar.
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26 December 2008, 08:27
JBrownI don't see the big bear quote. Did they remove it from the site?
Jason
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
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26 December 2008, 12:39
ovnyquote:
I don't see the big bear quote. Did they remove it from the site?
Jason
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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will decide how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure."
Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. JBrown
True, they have removed the statement said that the 375-caliber H & H Magnum was not appropriate to abate bears great. I am settled the issue, so if you think it appropriate moderator can close the thread.
Thanks to everyone,
Oscar.
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26 December 2008, 22:42
Frostbit.338 WM worked on this one. I'm sure a .375 H&H would have done the same job.
26 December 2008, 22:52
ovnyquote:
.338 WM worked on this one. I'm sure a .375 H&H would have done the same job.
Wow, often bear, you look like a Lilliputian behind him. What used tip-type, weight, etc. ..?, How many shots needed?, Is really impressive. Congratulations, with your permission I'm going to save the picture.
Oscar.
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26 December 2008, 22:59
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by ovny:
quote:
.338 WM worked on this one. I'm sure a .375 H&H would have done the same job.
Wow, often bear, you look like a Lilliputian behind him. What used tip-type, weight, etc. ..?, How many shots needed?, Is really impressive. Congratulations, with your permission I'm going to save the picture.
Oscar.
Federal Safari Grade 250 gr. Nosler Partition. Do as you wish with the picture. It's just the camara angle. The Bear was decent but nothing spectacular.
He dropped with the first shot but I put two more in until motion stopped.
It was a great hunt though. Self guided with a hunting partner along.
26 December 2008, 23:06
ovnyquote:
Federal Safari Grade 250 gr. Nosler Partition. Do as you wish with the picture. It's just the camara angle. The Bear was decent but nothing spectacular.
He dropped with the first shot but I put two more in until motion stopped.
It was a great hunt though. Self guided with a hunting partner along.
I am satisfied with powers to hunt a beautiful animal like that, but I know that hunt goes abroad and more expensive for an employee like me, whose salary comes out every single household. Thanks for the photo, keep the soil from the animals that I like most of those hunters (Spanish and non-Spanish) have shot, and it costs less to dream with me one of these for my excellent catches.
A greeting,
Oscar.
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26 December 2008, 23:39
MikeyBThe .375 H&H would be my
first choice for big bears...
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27 December 2008, 00:42
ovnyThe 375 has been largely surpassed by many other caliber, which does not mean it is effective with the big bears and in normal situations, with animals quiet even for the big ones. If a hundred years ago worked, why not going to work at present with best tips and best gunpowder?
Oscar.
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28 December 2008, 09:33
Strut10quote:
Originally posted by ovny:
If a hundred years ago worked, why not going to work at present with best tips and best gunpowder?
Oscar.
Because ignoramus gun writer wannabes get it in their minds as such.
The .375 H&H (as somebody already said) would be my first choice for big bears...........were it not for the .375 Weatherby.

Founder....the OTPG
28 December 2008, 10:52
ovnyquote:
Because ignoramus gun writer wannabes get it in their minds as such.
The .375 H&H (as somebody already said) would be my first choice for big bears...........were it not for the .375 Weatherby.
Good answer, jejeje. Weatherby did everything "faster" jejeje.
Oscar.
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28 December 2008, 20:28
Sid PostWith modern rifles and modern gun powders, you can get similar performance from smaller lighter rifles. Or, you can take the same cartridge size and rifle weight and shoot heavier bullets even faster. That in no way means the older classic cartridges are not capable of performing similarly to the new "wonder' cartridges that some manufacturer is trying to sell you.
Really, if you already have a 375 H&H in your gun safe, how are they (rifle and ammunition manufacturers) going to convince you to buy a 375 RUM/RCM/ect.? Marketing is a factor along with ego. What rifle manufacturer would not want to chamber their rifle in a cartridge with their name on it?
The fact that H&H, Rigby, and few others are still available today is a credit to their original design and their ability meet the demands of the modern hunt. Sure, we don't need the case volume today for large quantities of black powder but, the cartridge is every bit as good today as it was ~100 years ago.
Best Regards,
Sid
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28 December 2008, 21:27
ovnyquote:
With modern rifles and modern gun powders, you can get similar performance from smaller lighter rifles. Or, you can take the same cartridge size and rifle weight and shoot heavier bullets even faster. That in no way means the older classic cartridges are not capable of performing similarly to the new "wonder' cartridges that some manufacturer is trying to sell you.
Really, if you already have a 375 H&H in your gun safe, how are they (rifle and ammunition manufacturers) going to convince you to buy a 375 RUM/RCM/ect.? Marketing is a factor along with ego. What rifle manufacturer would not want to chamber their rifle in a cartridge with their name on it?
The fact that H&H, Rigby, and few others are still available today is a credit to their original design and their ability meet the demands of the modern hunt. Sure, we don't need the case volume today for large quantities of black powder but, the cartridge is every bit as good today as it was ~100 years ago.
And I think sid friend, that we will, among other demonstrating its effectiveness over 100 years.
Best regards,
Oscar.
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29 December 2008, 04:57
Use Enough GunThe .375 is more than adequate for all of the big bears. I just watched Chris Dorsey shoot a huge charging Kodiak Brown Bear and drop him dead in his tracks at 10 yards after being called in by a predator call.
29 December 2008, 08:47
ovnyquote:
The .375 is more than adequate for all of the big bears. I just watched Chris Dorsey shoot a huge charging Kodiak Brown Bear and drop him dead in his tracks at 10 yards after being called in by a predator call.
I think so, maybe it was a mistake in the preparation of information, but they have already solved. Thank you.
Oscar.
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