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Take Grampahubel's advice and go with the .585 Hubel Express. It'll do a 750 gr bullet at over 2700 fps if you can stand behind the rifle!!!! Also, there is a good supply of excellent brass at affordable prices. Mine is built on an Enfield action and is 12.5 pounds. I'm not sure I'd want to shoot full power loads in a Ruger No 1, unless it was 16 pounds with a brake, haha!. My No 1 .458 Lott is bad enough! Mr Hubel says they work great in a No 1 though and he should know. I'd stay with the laminate model though.

The .600 JDJ would be an interesting choice too.
 
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I have a Ruger No.1 in 50-110 with a nice heavy contour barrel.
I think a rechamber to 577/500 3-1/8” worked up as a nitro load would be about as much oomph as I could stand in that rifle.
I guess the extractor and trough work would be the same for a 577.
 
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"......... extractor and trough work would be the same for a 577.

Yes, the trough is the limitation on the Ruger No. 1 action. The 577 rim is as big as you can go. As shown in the picture of my 600 JDJ, this leaves only about 1/32" material each side of the trough.



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Buckstix, please, what is the maximum diameter of the barrel where it meets the receiver?
I am surprised that it tapers immediately in front of the receiver. Eeker

Here is a straight cylinder barrel that barely fits over the forearm hanger at 1.140"maximum diameter, just as it came from Verney-Carron.
It was 28", now is 26" long:







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"......... extractor and trough work would be the same for a 577.

Yes, the trough is the limitation on the Ruger No. 1 action. The 577 rim is as big as you can go. As shown in the picture of my 600 JDJ, this leaves only about 1/32" material each side of the trough.



I disagree.

The trough can be nearly wrecked enough to slide a 0.766" wide rim of a 3.5" brass 20-gauge into it.

My action looks about like yours:
Thinned a little more on the left side (the extractor-ejector side)
and having some ripples in the trough any sane gunsmith would hesitate to polish out for fear of running out of metal.

The trough accepts the 20-gauge but the extractor will not.





Not enough room for the extractor to work:



So maybe I need to do a .577 NE with this action and keep pressures and recoil low ... or a fully rifled 28 Gauge Ex Purgatorio. rotflmo

While we are at this, buckstix:

Do you have plans to replace that squishy recoil abating contraption with some solid wood and a steel buttplate?

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Buckstix, please, what is the maximum diameter of the barrel where it meets the receiver?
I am surprised that it tapers immediately in front of the receiver. Eeker

Barrel measures 1.215" where it meets the receiver.

I disagree.

The trough can be nearly wrecked enough to slide a 0.766" wide rim of a 3.5" brass 20-gauge into it.

OK, I'll concede that additional .016" diameter.

My action looks about like yours:
Thinned a little more on the left side (the extractor-ejector side)
and having some ripples in the trough any sane gunsmith would hesitate to polish out for fear of running out of metal.

The trough accepts the 20-gauge but the extractor will not.

So, does your extractor work? Mine does.

While we are at this, buckstix:

Do you have plans to replace that squishy recoil abating contraption with some solid wood and a steel buttplate?

No, I'll leave it that way. That's how JD made it, and the next owner will probably like it that way.

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BTW, the anti-tank muzzle-brake on my rifle works great, and blows everything off the bench to give you more shooting room.


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Then the forearm hanger has been weakened "a little" by removing steel. Probably of "little" consequence.

No, my extractor does not work. That is THE POINT OF IT ALL.



Not even J.D. Jones can make it work on anything bigger than the .577 NE rim.
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Then the forearm hanger has been weakened "a little" by removing steel. Probably of "little" consequence.

No, my extractor does not work. That is THE POINT OF IT ALL.

Not even J.D. Jones can make it work on anything bigger than the .577 NE rim.
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Hello RIP

I think the hanger might have had a little material machined away, but it has no effect since my barrel is not free floating. Too bad your extractor doesn't work. You wouldn't think that an extra .008" per side would make that difference. Mine is an ejector. Nice thing about my ejector is that because of the lowered trough, the ejector kicks the fired case into the front edge of the safety, where it stops. The safety keeps the case from flying out and onto the ground.

BTW, a couple of years ago my Master Machinist son-in-law made me a Custom barrel-band sling swivel for the rifle as a Christmas present. Looks cool!



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Hey Buck-----JD put a barrel swivel om mine Cool
& it's an ejector---not just an extractor. There are guys that can bury the safety into the receiver if that catching the rim bugs you. Me---I just machines a little off the forward edge of the safety so now the cases fly out as I like---told JD he needed to do it up front tu2
 
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Hey Buck-----JD put a barrel swivel om mine Cool
& it's an ejector---not just an extractor. There are guys that can bury the safety into the receiver if that catching the rim bugs you. Me---I just machines a little off the forward edge of the safety so now the cases fly out as I like---told JD he needed to do it up front tu2


Hello 600 Overkill

Mine is an ejector also. (corrected last post) I don't mind the safety stopping the ejected case. I actually prefer it that way. What caliber is yours?


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Wow those are some big barrel holes for a NO.1.

Eeker Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Hey Buck-----JD put a barrel swivel om mine Cool
& it's an ejector---not just an extractor. There are guys that can bury the safety into the receiver if that catching the rim bugs you. Me---I just machines a little off the forward edge of the safety so now the cases fly out as I like---told JD he needed to do it up front tu2


Hello 600 Overkill

Mine is an ejector also. (corrected last post) I don't mind the safety stopping the ejected case. I actually prefer it that way. What caliber is yours?


Come on----do you really think i'd get it in a varmint 577 Cool Although a 577 would be a wicked coyote round. You still shooting some of my cast flat noses?

 
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I would go with a 585 Hubel Express I had one and had no problems with it ,you can load it to go a lot harder if you want ,but at 577 velocities it will flatten anything ,a good Idea is to get it restocked if you can, with more surface area at the butt ,which I think is the problem with most big bores, the stocks are okay made for lesser calibers ,but really need a custom stock for things that kick,one that fits you .
 
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