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i just happened to look at the webpages for a norwegian gunstore and there i discoverd that he had 416 weatherby ammo for 25,- kr pr round, thats about 4 US , or 2,5£ pound apice.

What should i do, i have wanted a 416 for a while, and i have wanted to try the Weatherby for some time. Then i would have got a Brno 602, polish it a little bit, add a Leupold and voila, a safari gun that is both flatshooting and hardhitting.
 
Posts: 1196 | Location: Kristiansand,Norway | Registered: 20 April 2006Reply With Quote
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You might try to find someone in a local gun club who owns one and might let you shoot it a couple of times before you decide that you want to build one.

I've fired one with a muzzle break, but not without it. It was fun to shoot, but the experience didn't make me want to rush out and buy one.

Most of the genuine experts on this board seem to have reservations about the cartridge.

Good luck.

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Posts: 1580 | Location: Dallas, Tx | Registered: 02 June 2006Reply With Quote
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I've never met someone who owned a rifle in 416 Weatherby, you may have to look a long time to find one. But 416 Remingtons and 416 Rigbys seem to be owned by a few. Just judging from shooting my own 416 Rigby, I don't feel the need to have more velocity. I think you reach diminishing returns with the Weatherby.


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Posts: 7046 | Location: Rambouillet, France | Registered: 25 June 2004Reply With Quote
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I am not sure, but wasnt it a ad in the Weatherby catalog with Bill R Quimby for a few years ago, with a 416?
 
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over here in norway there arnt a importer for them now, so the easiest thing would be to custom make one, but it cant be that bad in recoil. just put some weight on it , that would be better than with a muzzlebrake on it.
 
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Just get a Rigby. The extra velocity is useless unless you like cratering at short range stir . Besides you can load the Rigby up if you want.
 
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I own a 416 weatherby its a excellant cartridge extremely flat shooting, more flat shooting then a 375 HH,excellant long range and knock down power is amazing.I personlly love the weatherby cartridges............
 
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If I were building a custom on a ZKK602 or CZ550 action, I would opt for the traditional Rigby and handload it to higher velocity if I wanted Weatherby-like power.


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There was a argument long ago over whether or not .416 Rigby brass was strong enough to handle .416 wby velocities. I solved that issue by turning the belts off of .416 WBY brass and cranking up the velocities in my Rigby. It works just fine! Personally, I abore anything Weatherby and just the thought of not owning one makes me happy. Weatherby = good cartridges but crappy company and too many negative stereotypes for me.-Rob


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And that did also Jack O`Connor with his 416 Rigby , took the belt off, a better solutionm would have beeb just to make room for the belt , but what works, works, whati s the trouble with Weatherby, its been quiet since the importer stopped taking them in here.
 
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Email 'shakari' on this website, he used to have a Weatherby .416WM.....
 
Posts: 1274 | Location: Alberta (and RSA) | Registered: 16 October 2005Reply With Quote
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I get a kick out of these people who make stupid comments about weatherby some say you really dont need the extra velocity and you really dont need all that extra power and the weatherby company is crappy and people makeup false statements about weatherby in general.I have never had any problems with my weatherby mark V rifles what so ever also i have had no problems with the weatherby cartridges. Thats how this negative stereotypes start by people making false rumores about weatherby i have had more one shot kills using my weatherbys then any other brand rifle or cartridge.When im hunting using my weatherbys the game i hunt die with dignity............
 
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I have a 416 Wby builded on a CZ 550 action. It is powerfull,very versatile and easy to shoot accurately (because it is build right).
It is my favorite big bore. An example: I was in RSA in May. I shot a big white rhino with the 416 Wby and open sights. In the following days I just mounted the scope and shot nyala, eland, gemsbok and kudu. I used a 410 grs GS Custom FN solid at 2725 f/s. It went right through on a slightly angled shot. The rhino went 50-60 paces and was found dead. The blood track was amazing - I have never seen anything like it before and even a half-blind could follow it..
The rhino was BIG bodied - the two PH`s who saw it had never seen such a big bodied bull before. We cut a road into the bush and had a truck with a big crane come and load it. The men couldn`t lift it with the long arm which could take 3 tonnes. They estimated him between 3 and 3,3 tonnes. If I could just find out how to post photos here killpc
Sorry that was a digression...
 
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Buffalo: Just do a "search" here for how to post pictures and it's pretty easy. If not, I'm usre one of the moderators can post it for you if you email them the picture. I'd love to see that rhino! jorge


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I love my 416 Bee!

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Jorge - I will try and ask GeorgeS to help me post some photos...
 
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A friend of mine has a 416wby that he turned the belt off and gave it a normal shoulder - started out as a wby. Nice rifle to shoot. He had some issues with the extractors breaking with hot loads - this is on a MKV action.

I had my 416sw built and in hind sight should have done a Rigby or Wby.
 
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Originally posted by mr rigby:
i just happened to look at the webpages for a norwegian gunstore and there i discoverd that he had 416 weatherby ammo for 25,- kr pr round, thats about 4 US , or 2,5£ pound apice.

What should i do, i have wanted a 416 for a while, and i have wanted to try the Weatherby for some time. Then i would have got a Brno 602, polish it a little bit, add a Leupold and voila, a safari gun that is both flatshooting and hardhitting.


Get the .416 Remington. It performs as well as a factory loaded .416 Rigby, and it is a lot cheaper to shoot than either of the other two!


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A friend of mine has a 416wby that he turned the belt off and gave it a normal shoulder - started out as a wby.


So, in effect, what he did was create another version of the .416 Rigby.


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That why i use a searcy 500ne double rifle for close shots and if i need to take a distance shot i have the 416 weatherby.
 
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Yes basically a Rigby, he did shoot it as a wby for a while before changing it. Was wanting to get away from head space on the belt, I know you can do it and leave the belt there it's just what he wanted to do.
 
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nice rhino. it has fallen for a .416?
 
Posts: 1196 | Location: Kristiansand,Norway | Registered: 20 April 2006Reply With Quote
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It was a 416 weatherby
 
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Thanks Gerard for posting the photo.

Yes it was shot with a 416 Wby. A 410 grs GS Custom FN Solid went right through him a bit angled. Massive bloodtrack to follow...
 
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