Here are the 458 caliber bullets that were recovered from two buff.The 500gr TSX was used on the buff as a final dispatching shot from the 458 lott,at close range.So were some of the others.I was surprised that these solids did not exit.Could it be that when the buff is lying down on all of its weight that the bullets have a touger time going through? One of the two Hornady solids on the left was found in the neck of the first buff I shot.It was the first shot at my first buff at about 200yds from a high point,that spined him then travelled through his body to his neck.The bullets on the right,485gr PMP solids were taken from my second buff.[URL= ]recovered bullets[/URL]

I followed some of your earlier posts and I am curious which rifle? Ruger or CZ? Were those factory loads?

I am surprised that a 500 grain Hornady solid did not exit a buff! What angle did you shoot those? I can't remember how many feet of oak ( I get a ton of 12x12 oak timbers from work) my Lott penetrated, its been a while. I will line up a couple of timbers tomarrow and see what I get for penetration.

Last weekend I shot my .500 Jeffery into a few timbers. With a Barnes 570 banded solid I get 54" of penetration in oak. Thats at 2400fps. The lott can't be far behind.

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Originally posted by fourbore:
I followed some of your earlier posts and I am curious which rifle? Ruger or CZ? Were those factory loads?

Rifle was a Ruger that I rented.

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Originally posted by doubledown:
I am surprised that a 500 grain Hornady solid did not exit a buff! What angle did you shoot those? I can't remember how many feet of oak ( I get a ton of 12x12 oak timbers from work) my Lott penetrated, its been a while. I will line up a couple of timbers tomarrow and see what I get for penetration.

Last weekend I shot my .500 Jeffery into a few timbers. With a Barnes 570 banded solid I get 54" of penetration in oak. Thats at 2400fps. The lott can't be far behind.

The first hornady was shot from about 200yds looking down from above and behind the buff.It hit the spine angled forward and made it to the neck.The second was shot either between the shoulders as the buff was lying down from a couple of feet away or directly on the shoulder from that same distance.I think a flat nosed solid would work better,however I was really pleased with the factory Hornady round.It was my prefered round but there where not that many available-about 4 rds in all,that where left from a box that a client had left my Ph,Richard.

Those recovered bullets look like they could be
used again. It is surprizing that they look as good as they do.

Excellent bullet performance.

I've had similar things happen which were confusing. Shooting a down buffalo from a few feet with a 450 dakota, trophy bonded solid, with no exit, shooting a hippo in the face at less than 10 feet without exit(this time with speer ags).

Then I was rereading the scriptures (John Taylor) and he mentioned the same thing and said it was because the solid hadn't had time to stabilize in flight. Following this I took note and I think he was right. When testing bullets on down buffalo I back off to at least 50 yards and they zip right through.