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15 October 2017, 00:12
Ridgeman
404 J cleaning
Very soon I will be taking possession of my 404 J and I’ve begun to look for cleaning gear.
Surprisingly I can’t find a source of brushes or jags to fit ?
Ideally I’d like a bore snake as well the kit to fit a rod but, to date I haven’t discovered a supplier.
Can anyone help me with this problem ?
Surely you other 404 owners clean your barrels ?
15 October 2017, 00:43
surefire7
You can just use a 44/45 caliber brush. It'll squeeze down to 423 caliber nicely.
15 October 2017, 08:41
Rockdoc
I don't always clean my 404's barrel, but when I do, I do what Surefire7 does.

What are you getting?


DRSS
16 October 2017, 09:40
Ridgeman
quote:
Originally posted by Rockdoc:
I don't always clean my 404's barrel, but when I do, I do what Surefire7 does.

What are you getting?


As a lefty my options have limits.
I really wanted a Dakota but they wouldn’t talk to me after the first e-mail for some weird reason. So I bought a Mauser MO3, synthetic stock and kickstop fitted. It’s a working gun.
16 October 2017, 10:59
eagle27
I too just use 44 cal cleaning brushes to clean my 404J bore. For a jag I just use a Parker Hale yellow rod with a 30 cal jag and few wrappings of 4x2 cloth. I don't like the 'modern' brass brushes, they are too sparce and stiff in bristles.
I had a spare 12 gauge PH bronze brush that has dense and soft bristles which I cut down with scissors until a nice fit in the 404 bore. This brush un-threaded from the wooden 12 gauge rod adapter then threaded straight into the PH yellow rod. Works nicely and also used it to clean my 455 Webley revolver when I had it.

44/45 caliber stuff fits the 404 bore nicely, as do 44 cal gas checks if loading cast for the 404J.
17 October 2017, 00:08
Ridgeman
Thanks gents.
I knew there had to be a solution.
A couple of manufacturers suggested I use .416 brushes ?
17 October 2017, 17:58
Jim Kobe
Just don't use a bore snake!


Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

18 October 2017, 00:22
Ridgeman
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
Just don't use a bore snake!



Why not Jim ?
Interested to know.
They seem pretty handy for in field use !
18 October 2017, 23:02
efendi
I use Kynoch 400 and jag on a Parker-Hale rod. see
www.traderkeith.com
19 October 2017, 00:00
Atkinson
You can use .416 brushes and mops, and use a larger or double patch, maybe use two patches, whatever is snug...

Boresnakes are the best for evening pass throughs during hunts, oil the brush and keep the snake clean in a plastic bag..Everyone uses them these days they are the best thing since sliced white bread. I know a lot of well known gunsmiths that use them..Don't know why anyone would not recommend them. better than running a steel rod down a bore and washing out the throat when used improperly, anything used wrong probably isn't good. Why would a bore snake be worse than a 200 gr, bullet going 3000 FPS down a dirty barrel...Most all varmint hunters today run a snake down the bore every 20 or 30 shots as accuracy decreases while shooting P dogs or chucks.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com