Just got back from South African hunt. The PH's raved about there local made Rhino bullets in .375. Is there a source here in the USA? If not what are they comparable to?

I cehcked their website and could only find African dealers. They allude to European dealers but didn't list any. This is their e-mail rhbullet@mweb.co.za . You may want to e-mail them and see if they have any US dealers.

This might not be of any help at all, but at least here in Sweden, the dealer is Harbo Vapen (Harbo Guns).

http://www.harbovapen.com/english/index.htm

There use to be a guy in Texas that tried to distribute their bullets for a while but prices from S.Africa and shipping made it unprofitable for him to import them anymore. Your only option is order direct from S.Africa and be prepared for delays.

I have a whole bunch of Rhino .375" 350 grain bullets that I would sell. Also a whole bunch of Rhino .366" 286 grain bullets.

From the Rhino Bullets web site at http://www.rhinobullets.co.za/USABUYERS.HTM

-Bob F.



IMPORTANT U.S.A.

RHINO PRODUCTS INTO THE U.S.A. MARKET.

It is with regret that we have to inform our American customers that Bill Isenbarger won't be selling Rhino bullets anymore.

The reasons for this are:

* Bill's import permit has expired.
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* Since 9/11 we have been unable to find a shipping company in South Africa or America that are willing to transport any firearm components to the States. Bill had to use Lufthansa Airways at R48.00 per kg. to transport our bullets to the States. This extra cost made the whole venture economically unviable

N.B. To all my customers emailing me requesting that I send small parcels through the post, please note:

This is illegal: I will be breaking a minor law in South Africa but you will be breaking a Federal Law in the States. I have checked this with the F.B.I. To import ammunition or parts of ammunition one has to have a permit. The South African Customs have told me that if I do not correctly name/describe the parcels, for instance calling them (turned part – hunting equipment – sports equipment), they will confiscate the bullets. The F.B.I. said they would not only confiscate, but prosecute anyone bringing in any ammunition or part of ammunition without the required permits.

As soon as we find a willing transport company we will resume exporting to the states, provided that import permits are in place.

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Originally posted by 300magman:
... If not what are they comparable to?

* The lead core bonded to the copper jacket make separation impossible with no bullet breakup and very deep penetration and low meat damage.

* The bonding process gives a very high weight retention in excess of 95%.

* The solid rear section stops expansion at the right diameter ensuring very deep
penetration.

http://www.rhinobullets.co.za/specifications.htm

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They look very similar to Trophy Bonded Bear Claws and North Forks to me.

My two cents....
-Bob F.

Thanks for all the information. I was afraid I would not be able to try them.

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The PH's raved about there local made Rhino bullets in .375.

300Magman,

The above remark from the various PH's is in stark contrast with those individuals on AR knocking the Rhino bullet; claiming that the bullet does not perform, and that they have to find their way through lies by virtue of misleading advertising and it is easier to make good advertising than than the actual product.

I have posted various examples of how the Rhino bullet performs. Despite that the condemnation persists. The opinion of the the PH's that you refer to simply underlines the fact that they are indeed happy with the bullet. It really makes one wonder.

Warrior

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Originally posted by exabit:
This might not be of any help at all, but at least here in Sweden, the dealer is Harbo Vapen (Harbo Guns).

http://www.harbovapen.com/english/index.htm

OOOFFF! $101.32 Cdn for 20 338 Carts!! The dealers must want to retire fast!

Aren't the Rhino's very similar to the GS Custom bullets? The GS products are available here in the states.

If Rhino's and GS Custom bullets were cars, the Rhino would be the equivalent of the Indian manufactured Tata and the GSC the latest Rolls Royce model.

No comparison at all!!!

You cannot compare Rhino bullets with GSC bullets because they belong to different genres. The GSC-HV bullet is an expanding mono metal bullet such as the Barnes TSX, and so that would be a better comparison. The Rhino Soft has a bonded lead core and should be compared with bullets that exhibit similar features. That would be more equitable.

It essentially boils down to a choice that the hunter must make, as to which philosophy he wants to follow - "light and fast" or "slow and heavy" for its intended application. There are benefits to both. So it is not a matter of better or worse, but rather what is your application.

Warrior

Warrior you wont let it go hey.

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those individuals on AR knocking the Rhino bullet; claiming that the bullet does not perform, and that they have to find their way through lies by virtue of misleading advertising and it is easier to make good advertising than than the actual product. It really makes one wonder.

You call me a liar and that will not do so I will give you proof that your rhino bullets are not failproof or foolproof. Am I the only one that had trouble with rhinos. No!

Read this from the AR forum:

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Acquaintance of mine tried them on a BW and according to him it did not expand very well at all, by his assessment of the entrance/exit wounds. The Willy ran quite some way but it did expire eventually, without any additional shooting.Tracking was fairly straightforward, but it ate up their day following it. Every time they spotted it, it spotted them first and ran off without giving them a shot.

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shooting (North American Bison) with soft point Rhino bullets and the soft point Rhino bullets don't expand!

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286 grain Rhino in both 9,3x62 and 9,3x63. I agree about that they do not expand as much as they should, no expansion noticed when fired through European Moose. Also tested the bullets fired through wet paper, When fired at 100 paces the expansion was hardly noticed.

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We have strings about the lack of expansion of Rhino bullets several places on the internet at forums like this in at least three different languages as far as I have seen.

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He had them loaded at about 2250 FPS...The Rhino softnose bullets failed to expanded at all...Apparantly the jacket is too thick or hard, they are simply solids for all practical purposes

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He tried Rhino bullets this year and the softs slicked through buffalo without expanding at all.

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I have found that 300gr rhino bullets do not have the same effect on the same animals because i have found that at the velocities that I shoot they do not expand that easily or not at all.

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rhino 300gr bullets. I shot the wildebeest in the chest while facing me at 80 yards. The wildebeest fell right down but after a few seconds it got on it's feet and on his way. I snapped a second shot at the spine and it fell again. I missed the spine with an inch and had to shoot it through the neck when it tried to get up after the second shot.

Magnum magazine:

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a guy complaining that his Rhino 243 bullets did not expand and he had to track a lot of animals for great distances after they were shot.

Rhino website!!:

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Waterbuck 27†shot at 80 meters, the bullet went thru in the top of the hart. After 300 meters the animal took of and I shot it from behind, the bullet hit right behind the ribs and split the hart I two pieces, I found the bullet in the skin on left side of the chest. This one is a tuff bastard, it ran 300 meters between two shots, and it also run about 100 meters after the second shot.

I think I can find the guy who showed me the rhino that did not expand. He had more than one so I will get a picture of that and show it to you as well. You can stop calling me a liar and start believing that all is not well in your fantasy land.

And something else as well:
A little while back you said

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I concerned myself with the 7 mm HV that I bought and compared it to a Rhino, right?

and now you say

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You cannot compare Rhino bullets with GSC bullets because they belong to different genres.

When it suits you you compare and when it does not suit you you dont want to compare. Shees you change your mind like a woman out shopping.

I read an old story about an African Hunter who killed a Rhino with a .250 Savage cartridge...how about that?!
Tom

375's


https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2711043/m/794103956

9.3s

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2711043/m/794103956

Rat Motor,

You said you had to find your way through the lies. You still did not tell me what these lies were, and by whom, but you seem to blame the advertising rather than any person specifically. I did not say that you were a liar, but the stange thing is that neither have Pieter Olivier or myself encountered any problems with Rhino bullets. That does not mean that it cannot happen and if you can post a picture it would be helpful, and even more helpful, it could be sent to the manufacturer to acertain why the bullet did not expand. There is no sin in publishing a bullet that did not perform, no matter which bullet it is. We are here to share experiences with each other.

When I said I compared GSC bullets with Rhino bullets, I was talking about prices if you paid any attention. However, on my next hunt I will shoot animals with both bullets.

I can post another two or three examples of where Rhino bullets did perform if you so wish.

Warrior

Hey Warrior,
You ask

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You said you had to find your way through the lies. You still did not tell me what these lies were, and by whom,

A week ago you asked the same question

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1)What do you mean ... "I had to work my way through the lies"? Who lied to you about Rhino bullets?

Four days later thats three days ago I told you

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The rhino website and the dealer I bought them from.

You have a problem with short term memory or what.

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I did not say that you were a liar

No you said "Rat Motor's price comparison also seems highly suspect". Is there a difference? You also said "individuals on AR knocking the Rhino bullet; claiming that the bullet does not perform" with a straight reference to a post I made and how is that different from saying that I am lying?

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When I said I compared GSC bullets with Rhino bullets, I was talking about prices if you paid any attention

Yes I reckon that a Tata and a Roller belong to different genres also and comparing prices of those two are a waste of time too.

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I can post another two or three examples of where Rhino bullets did perform if you so wish.

Do you figure that posting good results will make the bad results go away? Only a fool would think that way right?

You thrive on creating discord and deserve all the ridicule you get.

I apologise for insulting women who change their minds when they go out shopping.

Rat Motor,

It would be futile to answer your one-sided comments, save to say that the prices were subsequently given specifically which settles that issue and for another you still avoided to tell us what the lies were - the lie on the website of Rhino Bullets & the lie by the dealer. In particular, the lie on the Rhino website that you claim.

Warrior

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It would be futile to answer your one-sided comments

Translation - I dont have any answers because you are right and I wont admit it.

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the prices were subsequently given specifically which settles that issue

It also showed you up for the lies you told about the prices comparing old prices of one with the current prices of the other.

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you still avoided to tell us what the lies were

You still having the short term memory problem?