Ray, I am sure you have an assortment of factory loads in 404. I am interested in cartridge overall length for the European loaded ammo.

One man, one rifle, a pride of lions? This would be better than the Ghost of Darkness.

John,
Oal: 3.530 (depending 0n lead exposer) had hell finding one that wasn't roughed up...The solids run 3.525 to 30 so I'd call it 3.530 average.

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

Thanks, I wanted a real answer, not one I looked up in the books. Battered noses? Bet those cartridges have been in some interesting areas in the world.