I want to thank Dugga Ron for the sight pattern suggestion: That seemed to bring things up about 1-2 inches. I did not mark order of shots this time it was 38 degrees with Rain and sleet mix. I did not wish to run down 50 yards to target stand every shot. I forgot my sand bags and spotting scope so this was done off my range bag and gun case. I had ordered 10 round of superior ammo I shot six(mixed results...I am sure it was me.).

This pic is of 70 grains of R-15 400 grain woodliegh soft..more like the load Ray uses.
This was at 50 yards:

Bob,

That's certainly 'minute of buffalo'. I think you're doing great!

George

You still need to send that rifle to me!

Mark, Mac, Perry and I will bloody it on a hog hunt for you.!

Rusty
We band of brothers!

The report and recoil were stiff. I had a magnum headache rest off day. Thing opened ok... primers were fine.

urdubob

That thing shoots beautifully.

Quit showing off.

What make is that rifle, and what is its year of manufacture?

Thanks.

R B Rodda....between 1908-1912 proofs. Thats what some of the fine folks at AR were able to decode.
urdubob

urdubob Excellent shooting. Do us all a favor. Order some 300gr. Hawks with the .025jkt. Load them up over the same powder charge as the 400 Woodleigh and tell us how they shoot. Test the 75% rule.
P.S. That load kicks a bit less and is
DYNO-MITE on deer and wild pigs.

Urdubob:

I got your check. Believe it or not, you are only the second member who really puts his money where his mouth is. I should'a known.

I'm happy for you and your double rifle. My first effort at a .450/400 3 1/4" Rodda didn't work quite so well.

But, since I'm such a great guy, please send it to me, in an airline proof case, so that I can take it to Tanzania this summer. I'll try to return it, when convenient.


If ever

[ 03-01-2003, 08:04: Message edited by: JudgeG ]

urdubob,
I assume you are now making a "combat" sight picture. Slap the bead where you want to shoot and your excellent rifle is shooting to the center of the bead at 50 yards.

If this is the case, then you are close enough to 1.19 X #grains of Cordite = RL-15 #grains.

Whether it is 70 grains or 71.4 grains of RL-15, you and the rifle have the say.

Chronograph data, when not raining and spitting sleet, and barrel length of the gun would be interesting to know, but it looks like whatever it is, it will do just fine, and not risk stressing the gun with any more tinkering with loads.

See how the velocities and groups compare in 38 degrees versus 90 degree F temperatures.

I think you will find that RL-15 is very temperature stable and there will be no appreciable difference.

With the 70 grain load no worries all around, I would stick with that.

Are you using any filler in the 3" 450/400 NE?

urdubob
One thing you can do is put up 2 targets at the distance you are testing at, and then shoot all the right bbl shots on the right bbl target and the left bbl shots on the left target. It looks like your double is shooting plenty good.
After you use your double a while I will ask this question: What calibre is your second double rifle going to be.

NE, what is the reason behind the two targets?

Jay did you sell the Greener?

Dave When shooting a double you want to know which shots are from the right bbl, and which are from the left. Usually one shoots two or three shots from each bbl. By having two targets you shoot the right bbl on the right tgt. and the left on the left tgt., then reload, repeat, reload, repeat. then you check the targets. This keeps you from having to check the targets and make notes on which shot is from which bbl. after every shot.
He had stated he did not have a spotting scope with him. This is one way to keep the shots from each bbl separate without having to walk to the target.

[ 03-02-2003, 13:28: Message edited by: N E 450 No2 ]

urdubob
Sounds like a good plan to me.