Gents:

What would a 95% Interarms 375 H&H be worth on the used market?

all original and that nice, Frank Martinez would give you at least $750. He's the forum guru on Whitworths.

Rich

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by jsl3170:
Gents:

What would a 95% Interarms 375 H&H be worth on the used market?

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
all original and that nice, Frank Martinez would give you at least $750. He's the forum guru on Whitworths.

Rich

Gentlemen simply because a Zestava actioned 375 H&H rifle was imported by Interarms doesn't necessarily make it a "WHITWORTH"!

If the rifle you are looking at is an INTERARMS Alaskan,Mark X,Viscount,or Cavalier then it is not a Whitworth,In these rifles only the Alaskan were chambered for 375H&H ,and 458 Win mag, and is not worth near as much as a real Whitworth African express rifle. The Alaskan is worth in the $500-$700 range depending on condition. The Whitworths are now selling in the $1000-$1200 range also depending on condition, and with all origenal parts intact, except the trigger. A canjar, or Timmney trigger being a plus.

The Alaskan has aluminum after market adjustable back sight,and most of the other models had no sights at all. These Interarms imports had some sort of hard wood stock with a monticarlo hump, a thinner barrel,with sling lugs in the wood on both ends,with very basic fit, and finish and nothing on the rifle labeling it as a Whitworth rifle! IOW Cheap off the shelf utility knock about rifle, that is worth not much more that the value of the action. The action is worth about $500 however.

The Whitworth, however, has an island rear sight with a fixed 100 yd standing rear sight and two flip-ups for 200yds, and 300 yds down range sighting. The front sight is mounted on a ramp, and hooded. The front sling stud is on the barrel about three inches forward of the ebony nosed stock which is classicly shaped with a red recoil pad that is also labeled WHITWORTH. On the left side of the action rail it is stamped with the Interarms "star","Interarms","CZ", and "Manchester England". On the left side of the receaver ring it is stamped WHITWORTH and on top of the reciever there is an oval wich encircles the word "Whitworth". The chambering is engraved on the left side of the barrel just ahead of the reciever in script.

The price has gone up on both the Whitworth, and the Alaskan, because the Zestava actions are no longer available except in the Remington 798 which is a little rough, sort of the same as the Alaskan. Whitworth rifles however are slick, fitted well, with much better wood, and will set you back some, price wise, that is if you can even fond one for sale. In the last seven or eight years there has been a raft of rifles showing up made from spare parts that folks are advertizing them as Whitworth rifles, but are not as advertized.

Hope any of this helps!

PS: if you want to know when the rifle was made look on the right side of the rear action ring, where there are two screw filled holes for a reciever sight, The month and year is atamped either between the holes or just under them, somtimes under the stock wood.

Mac,

I spoke with the owner of the shop and it says whitworth on the rifle. It also says Interarms and then manchester England on it. It has the ramp front sight although the hood is missing. it has the single leaf sight for 100 yds and 2 folding sights for 200 and 300 yards. original stock with ebony end and a red pad that says whitworth.

does this sound like the genuine article? asking price is $629.

Jeff

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Sounds like the real deal at a good price.

what is it really worth assuming good/excellent condition?

jsl

I have had a Whitworth 375 and a 458.

Yours sounds like it is original.

That is a good price.

In fact, at that price it would be a good buy for a pick up, atv, carry on the boat rifle.

I like the way the Whitworth's look and handle. I only sold mine because they only had ONE barrel.

I replaced the 375 with a Blaser R 93...

But I wish I still had the 458, because I have a lot of 458 "stuff".

i'm lefty so don't need it. wondering value for resale if i can get it and it's in the ocndition it sounds like that is all.

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
Mac,

I spoke with the owner of the shop and it says whitworth on the rifle. It also says Interarms and then manchester England on it. It has the ramp front sight although the hood is missing. it has the single leaf sight for 100 yds and 2 folding sights for 200 and 300 yards. original stock with ebony end and a red pad that says whitworth.

does this sound like the genuine article? asking price is $629.

Jeff

Buy it or tell me where it is!

For what it's worth..In my opinion, this sounds like a Polish action (call it a Mark X) Not bad..not real good either.

If someone brings one into my shop I say the same thing....or why not look for a better action?

Plenty of cocking piece failures...they are a casting...harder than the hobs of hell, brittle! I personally would not use this action on a dangerous game rifle.

how would one determine if a polish action or not? wouldn't a whitworth be built in england?

Read the Whitworth thread referenced above. The Whitworth/Mark X/Charles Daly (Mauser style)/Rem 798 actions were made by Zastava (hope that is the right link).

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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe:
For what it's worth..In my opinion, this sounds like a Polish action (call it a Mark X) Not bad..not real good either.

If someone brings one into my shop I say the same thing....or why not look for a better action?

Plenty of cocking piece failures...they are a casting...harder than the hobs of hell, brittle! I personally would not use this action on a dangerous game rifle.

Duane the the Zestava Mark X is made in Ugoslavia not Poland, and I have two 375 H&H Whitworth rifles made on this action and one of my sons, and four of my friends, have them as well, and one PH I hunt with, and we have had zero problem with them.

My two rifles are about 25 yrs old, and have been all over North America mostly Alaska, and used in three countries in Africa, without problem one! The Santa Barbra MK X action was a Polish action I believe, and it was junk.

The "CZ" stands for "Crveno Zastava", And they are made in Belgrade, Yougoslavia

These are exact copies of FN Mauser actions, made on the equipment bought from FN, and moved to Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

I'm not saying you are wrong about anything other than the origen of this action, but your experience has been 180 degrees opposite mine.

Let's just say maybe I, and my friends have just been lucky, or, you have just been unlucky. Either way I'm not about to throw my rifles in a dump! They are super accurate, and feed like quick silver, and have been subjected to some of the worse conditions known to man in the hunting fields, from 115 degree heat, and talcum powder dust, to freezing rain, to salt water air and just seem to keep on ticking. None of us have ever had even one repare on these rifle in 25 yrs.

.................I dunn-O

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
how would one determine if a polish action or not? wouldn't a whitworth be built in england?

England has never made Mauser type bolt actions on anything other than Mauser actions, or in this case thw whitworth rifle is made on the Zastava action which is the FN Mauser action made on the FN factory equipment baught from FN, and moved to Balgrade, Yugoslavia.

the Whitworth African Express rifles were assembled, stocked and finished in Mannchester , England, and imported into the USA by Interarms.

Interarms also imported barreld actions made on the Zastava action as well calling them MK X Viscount MK X, Alaskan, MK X Cavalier. These barreled actions were stocked (for lack of a better word)with the Montecarlo hump crate wood stocks and have after market aluminum sights added, or no sights at all, in the USA.

These rifles were not of the same quality as the Whitworth Express rifles, either in wood, fit or finish.

CZ =Česká Zbrojovka a.s. Uherský NOT Zastava

Here you can read what is Zastava:

http://www.zastava-arms.co.rs/english/zastava.htm

Yes, but as Mac stated, the CZ markings on the actions refer to Crveno Zastava, not Ceska Zbrojovka. Different animals.

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Originally posted by fla3006:
Yes, but as Mac stated, the CZ marking on the actions refers to Crveno Zastava, not Ceska Zbrojovka. Different animals.

Thank you! Actually it is "ZAVODI CRVENA ZASTAVA" from "BELGRADE, YUGOSLAVIA"

Page 192 of 13th edition of "GUN TRADER'S GUIDE"!

Here is the wording from that same page on the Whitworth African Express rifle, also imported by Interarms.

"Interarms Whitworth Express Rifle, AFRICAN"

"Mauser-type bolt action. Calibers: 375 H&H, 458 Win Mag. 3 shot magazine. 24-inch barrel. Weight: about 8 lbs. 3-leaf express open rear sight, ramp front sight with hood. English-style stock of European walnut, with cheakpeace, black foreend tip, checkered pistol grip and fore-arm, recoil pad,QD swivels. Made from 1974 to date by Whitworth Rifle Co., England.

$629-steal it!

The Whitworth pads are terrible. Had to change mine. If anything it supports the value.