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I’m doing a search about when did John "Pondoro" Taylor´s books were published?
That is for an article about the first spanish edition of African Rifles & Cartridges.

Are these date right
African Rifles & Cartridges 1948.
Big Game & Big Game Rifles 1949
"Pondoro, the last ivory hunter 1955
Shadows of Shame 1956
Maneaters and Marauders 1958.

Thank you very much.
Martin


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Hi,
Anyone know if those dates are correct?
Thanks
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By no means an exhaustive research, but I have two differences in my records.

"Big Game and Big Game Rifles" 1948

"Maneaters and Marauders" 1959
 
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I have first & second printings of both those books...

In the "Big Game and Big Game Rifles" (Second printing), it says

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Herbert Jenkins Limited

3 Duke of York Street, St. James's

London S.W. 1


First Printing, 1948

Reprinted 1949

Printed in Great Britain by Butler & Truner Ltd., Frome and London
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Don't know if that is any help. Will try to get to looking up what it says in the other one sometime tomorrow.........


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Thank you very much!

I do not remember if I have read it, but I have the impression that "African Rifles & Cartridges" was the USA edition of "Big Game & Big Game Rifles" and both were edited on the same year.

Thanks for helping.
Martin


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Originally posted by Martin Godio:
I have the impression that "African Rifles & Cartridges" was the USA edition of "Big Game & Big Game Rifles"


I am 99% sure that is not correct.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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That is definitely NOT correct. They are particularly different in the amount of content.

Big Game & Big Game Rifles is a small book of 215 5"x8-5/16" pages, while African Rifles & Cartridges is a medium-large book of 431 6"x9" pages.

Big Game and Big Game Rifles talks about cartridges and rifles relative to the game to be hunted. Chapter titles include, for instance:

Rifles for Elephant Hunting

Rifles for Rhino Hunting

Rifles For Hippo Hunting

Rifles for Buffalo Hunting

Rifles For Lion Hunting

An All-Around Rifle

etc.

African Rifles & Cartridges is organized in terms of bore size, Starting with

Large Bores

Large Medium Bores

Medium Bores

Sights, Sighting and Trajectories

Marksmanship

etc.

My first edition of that book indicates it was first published by the Stackpole Company of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania as part of the Thomas G. Samworth series, in 1948.


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While I was at it, I had time to dig out my first edition of Pondoro...

In it (back of fly leaf) is stated:

"All rights Reserved
Including the right of reproduction
in whole or in part in any form
Copyright 1955, by John Taylor
Published by Simon & Shuster, Inc.
Rockefeller Center, 630 Fifth Avenue
New York 20, N.Y.


First printing
Library of Congress Catalog Card number: 55-10049
Dewey Decimal Classification Number: 916.9104
Manufactured in the United States of America"


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Thank you for your helping!!!1
So he write two different books on the same year.

Thank you very much all!!!!

Martin


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.58" ML by Pedersoli
 
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Si, escribe dos libras en uno ano, 1948...Uno para los Ingles, y uno para los Americanos del Norte.

Con mucho gusto- de nada!


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It is really sad to think that a writer of such talent as Taylor could die a pauper only a few short years after these classic books were published.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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A very sad ending indeed!!!

Good spanish Alberta! Wink

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Martin


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.58" ML by Pedersoli
 
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It is really sad to think that a writer of such talent as Taylor could die a pauper only a few short years after these classic books were published.


It was the publisher making the dough.


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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
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"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

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Originally posted by JBrown:
It is really sad to think that a writer of such talent as Taylor could die a pauper only a few short years after these classic books were published.


It was the publisher making the dough.


Yeah, I know. And JT screwed Fletcher Jamison's widow out of the money she was owed for the photos JT used.

I guess it's just sad because this giant of a man died an unhappy pauper in London after being exiled from his adopted home.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Tell me more. How do you know that happened?

I was going to use one of those FJ pics in my next book. When the copyright protection runs out (as Safari Press so readily takes advantage of in their reprints) I am assuming the photos have also lost their protection.

Hmmmm????


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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
---------------------------------------
and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________

"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________

If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.

 
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Tell me more. How do you know that happened?



I read it somewhere. I will have to go back and see if I can find it.

It may have been an article in Magnum on Jamison.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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Originally posted by JBrown:
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Originally posted by Will:
Tell me more. How do you know that happened?



I read it somewhere. I will have to go back and see if I can find it.

It may have been an article in Magnum on Jamison.


I remember them having an article once but I don't remember what it said!

I wonder if there is still a FJ Trust or whatever that has copyright to those photos, like the ones in A Man Called Lion. I want to use one but don't know who would have the right to give permission or refusal.


-------------------------------
Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
---------------------------------------
and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________

"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________

If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.

 
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Originally posted by Martin Godio:
I’m doing a search about when did John "Pondoro" Taylor´s books were published?
That is for an article about the first spanish edition of African Rifles & Cartridges.

Are these date right
African Rifles & Cartridges 1948.
Big Game & Big Game Rifles 1949
"Pondoro, the last ivory hunter 1955
Shadows of Shame 1956
Maneaters and Marauders 1958.

Thank you very much.
Martin


According to Capstick's Chronology in A Man Called Lion,

African Rifles & Cartridges 1948.
Big Game & Big Game Rifles 1948
"Pondoro, the last ivory hunter 1955
Shadows of Shame 1956
Maneaters and Marauders 1959 in UK, 1960 in USA.


-------------------------------
Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
---------------------------------------
and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________

"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________

If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.

 
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Thanks to all for helping.
As long as I know the rights of African Rifles and Cartridges is over as it was published in spanish some month ago. It have all the pictures and drawings.
Martin


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My doubles:
.577 Snider by W.Richards.
.58" ML by Pedersoli
 
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