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02 March 2011, 09:32
Norman Conquest
Unintended Consequenses
Just for the sake of keeping literary discussion alive,who has read this most excellent piece of work by John Ross + your thoughts therein?
06 March 2011, 11:26
Norman Conquest
I AM curious,has anyone else ever read this?Or if you have are you afraid of the 'thought police'?This a most excallant book concerning the shooting culture + a novel of the highest regard in writing skill.I cannot recommend it more highly ,you can most likely only find it at a gun show ;mores the pity that that is the only place you can find it.LOOK for a 1st edition if at all possible as the ATF filed suit on the author to make him remove the name of the shooter who took out Randy Weaver's wife + son (+dog).That is SOOO minor in the course of this book.It is a history of our culture + done in exquesite style.
06 March 2011, 20:42
257x50
I shall look today at the show.
Thanks for your time.
08 March 2011, 02:47
Idaho Sharpshooter
John is alive and well, and is in the process of reprinting the book to take the "anonymous" sniper out and give him a name.

You can PM with him if you go over to www.castboolits.com

I helped him out with some of the long range stuff in the book.

Rich
08 March 2011, 02:57
PSmith
NC:

I happened to find the book years ago (probably in 2004 or so) at Barnes & Noble. To be perfectly honest, the cover caught my eye. Then I read just a bit and bought it I think for $25. Anyway, I misplaced it while moving and had read half. Just found it recently and now am reading the rest. Heckuva first book that's for sure.


Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"

"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
08 March 2011, 10:59
Norman Conquest
Thanks Rich,I get on the castboolit sight as well;will try to drop him a line.
09 March 2011, 05:20
Cross L
Havent even heard of it-can it be found online?

SSR
09 March 2011, 08:00
Norman Conquest
Cross L,I don't know but I will guarantee that you will LOVE this book.Find it wherever you can + trust me it will be one of your favorites.
I personally have bought numerous editions to give to friends because WE (of the gun culture,et al )will appreciate this.Do the same + help support one of ours.
12 March 2011, 22:57
JIm Yackley
I read the book about 10 years ago, thought it was great. The idea that you can convert a Win 63 to full auto with a paper match was a little over the top. Would like to see someone shoot trap with a BAR.


Yackman
13 March 2011, 06:23
billrquimby
alibris.com has eight copies, and they range in price from $75 to more than $2,600 for an autographed copy.

Bill Quimby
13 March 2011, 11:08
Norman Conquest
Jim Yackley,believe it.I was only a kid,but Adolph Tupperwein could shoot in a fashion that I would be proud to emulate had I his skill.
15 March 2011, 19:56
Gadge
JR also has a website, but the book sale link is to Accurate Press, which is out of stock -no longer listed.

http://www.john-ross.net/store.php

There are quite a few of his 'Ross in Range' opinion columns there though, which are worth reading - http://www.john-ross.net/inrange.php


Cheers,
Doug
16 March 2011, 02:53
p dog shooter
My signed copy is very well worn. It is great book.

Matthew Brackens books are great also he has a series of books starting with Enemies Foreign and Domestic.

These are a great read also.
17 March 2011, 06:55
DaMan
Tim McVeigh loved it. What's that tell you?!!! Roll Eyes
17 March 2011, 23:43
p dog shooter
I am sure Tim loved it the bombing happen in 1995 the book came out in 1996.
18 March 2011, 20:02
JTEX
It was and is a great book. A bunch of the History in the book was NOT taught in any school I attended.

I have read it several times and it sits in an honored spot on my mantle.

I wish it would come out in paperback, I would buy many copies for distribution.

I give this book many thumbs up.



Ignored post by DaDumbass posted 17 March 2011 05:55
30 May 2011, 09:52
MMM
I have the book and enjoyed it very much. I made the mistake of ordering it online, I'm sure I made a few watch lists for that. Buy yours in person if you can!
31 May 2011, 08:28
Norman Conquest
Or buy it online.....but do it in volume! We used to have a thing called "The Blue Law" her in Texas.Long story short it involved some items that could not be sold on Sunday.ALL the merchants in Texas revolted! YOU CANNOT PUT US ALL IN JAIL + SHUT DOWN COMMERCE.They repealed the law.My Point?......
01 June 2011, 23:01
JTEX
quote:
Tim McVeigh loved it. What's that tell you?!!!


Always a dumbass, it matters not what forum he is in.


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02 June 2011, 19:59
billinthewild
I have just posted mine for sale in classified.


"When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all."
Theodore Roosevelt
11 June 2011, 11:00
Norman Conquest
Best wishes on your sale but best wishes to the purchaser as they have a beautiful literary journey in store.I envy them for their first read.
07 July 2011, 22:27
Wanderer
Loved the book when if first came out but unfortunately let my hard copy get away after I read it two or three times. Recently found an electronic copy which I enjoyed reading again and also passed it on to several enthusiasts all of whom really liked the book. Great historical stuff that I haven't seen any where else.


Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do.
08 July 2011, 10:05
Norman Conquest
EVERYONE should have this book.Buy a copy for someone you love.(flowers too would'nt hurt) but truthfully;everyone who has read this has the same lasting impression.....a sequil,PLEASE!!!
07 August 2011, 22:47
luvtoreload
An excellent book that should be required reading for US citizens!
09 August 2011, 07:26
GeorgeS
Read this book, then look at the "Fast & Furious" scheme. Mad

George


09 August 2011, 08:01
PSmith
good point George


Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"

"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
12 August 2011, 10:47
Norman Conquest
Shall we keep this post alive?Everyone who has read this novel[sic] agrees to the value of it's content.
12 August 2011, 19:00
KWard
Bill in the wild, did you ever sell your copy? if not PM please
12 August 2011, 20:37
Lapidary
I have read it. Good book, good reminder of some of the atrocities our government has committed against us citizens.
15 August 2011, 08:11
500N
quote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Read this book, then look at the "Fast & Furious" scheme. Mad

George



Now that was a dumb scheme and a half if ever
I saw one.

.
25 August 2011, 01:12
Ryan Campbell
A buddy of mine loaned it to me in the late 90's and I really enjoyed it. There is some history in there that isn't taught in
schools and I appreciated that.
However, I have to say that at some points it did drag on a bit about the main characters shooting skills/ability etc.
At a certain point I was thinking, "ok, the guy is really great shot, I get it...move on".

The main character also transformed into a bit of a "James Bond" toward the end, which happens a lot in literature.
I do however agree with the way the Federal Government is shown to be incompetent and totally lacking of knowledge and understanding of the "gun culture".


The Hunt goes on forever, the season never ends.

I didn't learn this by reading about it or seeing it on TV. I learned it by doing it.
25 August 2011, 08:43
Norman Conquest
Ryan,thanks for your input + glad you enjoyed the book. Good reading everyone.
25 August 2011, 15:00
Dogleg
I thought it was the best work of fiction I've ever read.

I read it as a PDF.
01 September 2011, 07:43
lde
Based on this thread, I picked up a signed copy on EBay. Looking forward to reading it.
05 September 2011, 08:55
Norman Conquest
IDE,once you have finished it (or before) I do believe that you will be buying copies for your friends as I did.Enjoy your read Amigo.