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....2016 about 500 pages ***** Stars A really fine biography about Frank Hamer, who, IMO, may be the finest gunfighter who ever lived. A man of exceptional skills as a Texas Ranger who learned all the ins and outs of the mentality of, trailing, tracking, and finding criminals coupled with wonderful shooting abilities. This meticulously researched book (35 pages of footnotes) shows the complete Hamer, warts and all. Probably will be the definitive Hamer biography. A survivor of at least 52 stand up gunfights and with well over 20 killed, including Bonnie and Clyde, he was not a man to be trifled with. For Texans interested in the Rangers, not to be missed.
After cleaning up the boomtown of Mexia early 1922...
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Gato, I had heard that Hamer was inordinately fond of his Model 8 in .25 Remington. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I'm not sure when he started using his Model 8 .25 but once he did he used it for most of the rest of his career. In one gunfight with some outlaws in the book, the other Rangers were amazed at how rapidly and accurately he fired it, saying the flames coming out of end of barrel made it look like a cactus "pear burner" (used to burn thorns off of prickly pear cactus so cattle could eat then in a drought). The author was not really a "gun" guy, but he covered Hamer's guns and his use fairly well. For one thing, Hamer didn't think much of a Thompson machine gun, much preferring the BAR, which was one of the weapons of choice of Bonnie and Clyde (the others being sawed off semi-auto shotguns and 1911 .45s). The story of the stalking of Bonnie and Clyde was interesting. I was amazed at the DOZENS of 1911s and BARs they stole from National Guard Armories and wondered what they did with them. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Should go well with "I'm Frank Hamer". He was fond of "Old Lucky" - his .45 Peacemaker (but was carrying a 1911 .38 Super when he did settle accounts with Bonnie and Clyde) and mentions the Model 8 and obtaining 30 (?) shot magazines for it........presumably they weren't readily available to civilians. If I recall correctly his gunfight statistics were far more impressive. I thought it was 100 gunfights and 50 of his opponents on the ground. I agree that he's probably the most successful "Shootist" ever. He made the transition from horseback ranger to the automobile. | |||
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An excellent, thorough, well written and researched book. Anyone with interest in Texana, the old west or the Rangers should have this book. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Mine's on the way...........looking forward to reading more about what must be the greatest of all gunfighters. | |||
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I'm ordering my copy. Another great one that should be in everyone's library is "The Texas Rangers" by Walter Prescott Webb. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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NormanConquest, You should be in a good position to research the Rangers........isn't their museum in Austin? | |||
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It is in Waco,about 1 1/2 hour north of here. I must confess that it is the ONLY thing of value worth seeing in Waco. Gatogordo has mentioned another museum upcoming but I am unaware of it. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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The Texas Ranger Heritage Center is in my town of Fredericksburg: www.trhc.org. I do not consider it on the same level as the one in Waco. Also, there is www.thebryanmuseum.org in Galveston, a world class Old West museum. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Thanks for the info. Something to check out the next time we make a run for those great peaches. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Received this book about a week ago. I've just started the "Bonnie and Clyde" chapter. The man is bigger than life. He went from one hell hole to the next solving crime. Hamer could certainly back up his mouth with actions. He'd have been "a good man to ride the river with". Recommend it whole heartedly. | |||
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Just finished reading my copy.Excellent! He has done fabulous research on this,however I have one issue. It appears that in the capture of Ed Putnam in 1906 Capt. Rogers kept Putnam's Lugar. Now the Luger was invented in 1908 (or at least was introduced to the military in 08).If he did have a luger at that time he would have been as superiorly armed as the rumor of the Colt Patterson at the Alamo. Also I found it interesting that Frank's widow sued Warner Bros studios for defamation of character due to the 1967 movie "Bonnie + Clyde" which showed Frank Hamer as the villian.She won by the way as Warren Beatty had no wish to go to court.Great book,I recommend it highly. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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BTW,she was awarded $20,000.00 Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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I finished reading my copy a couple of days ago. Great book. very thoroughly researched. His presence, and reputation, promoted peace..........but "Old Lucky" was there if they weren't enough to settle the situation. | |||
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"He has done fabulous research on this,however I have one issue. It appears that in the capture of Ed Putnam in 1906 Capt. Rogers kept Putnam's Lugar. Now the Luger was invented in 1908 (or at least was introduced to the military in 08)."
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Thanks Charlie,that is the reason that I did not make a definate statement on the P-08's inception. I was aware of the Borchard of course.I was interested in feedback on this issue. As I said before that he was armed with a new weapon (despite it being a 9mm) was akin to using a Patterson at the Alamo.Invented in 1836 + 3 months later it sees service at Bexar,half a country away.I will admit that that was a rumor as there were never found any percussion caps,spent or unfired.Of course all the weapons were gone as to be expected. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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My grandfather was John Larkin Hess, and I met Capt. Rogers in my youth as he used to come to our house and visit grampaw..I knew Frank Hammer fairly well as I met him on several occasions when I was in Houston, San Antonio and McAllen. Texas. I was with US Customs and later in DEA..Actually I knew a lot of Rangers over the years, mostly thru my grampaw..I have a pretty darn nice Ranger Gun and Paraphanallia collection from stuff given to me by a number of old time Texas Rangers. A lot of them retired as foremen on the KIng Ranch, but they are all gone to a better place.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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