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I was asked if interested in a Purdey hammer double barrel in 12 gauge. Looks like Damascus steel barrels. By the serial number it was made in 1901. Condition is NRA fair. It is complete except for one missing tang screw. Maybe 5 % original finish. No external pitting. Stock is worn but not split. The metal is plain with no engraving. Slight frosting in the barrels toward the muzzle. It appears to have the original fore end wedge. Barrel hinge is fairly loose with a a lot of play. Any idea what this may be worth?

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Bob
 
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Check out Vintage Doubles http://www.vintagedoubles.com/index.php
They carry many Hammer Guns and may give you a good idea as to what you are looking at in fact give them a call they may be able to help you .
It's hard to tell what you have as the details of the gun are a bit light you can tell if the gun is Nitro or Black powder proofed by the proof marks on the barrel flats the fore end wedge says that the gun may have been built earlier what is the serial number for example Purdys made in 1895 have a serial number of 15XXX. Do the barrels ring true? Is it on face? Are the hammers rebounding or non-rebounding? Does the gun come in a makers case? All of the above may help you be a better consumer just because it says Purdy on the barrels dont be led astray
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Originally posted by Zephyr:
Check out Vintage Doubles http://www.vintagedoubles.com/index.php
They carry many Hammer Guns and may give you a good idea as to what you are looking at in fact give them a call they may be able to help you .
It's hard to tell what you have as the details of the gun are a bit light you can tell if the gun is Nitro or Black powder proofed by the proof marks on the barrel flats the fore end wedge says that the gun may have been built earlier what is the serial number for example Purdys made in 1895 have a serial number of 15XXX. Do the barrels ring true? Is it on face? Are the hammers rebounding or non-rebounding? Does the gun come in a makers case? All of the above may help you be a better consumer just because it says Purdy on the barrels dont be led astray
Good Luck


Purdey is not stamped on the barrels but on the left sidelock. Is this a fake?
 
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Stamped or engraved ?

Not sure Purdey always put their name on the flats.

With trying to determine a fake, a whole load of factors need to be added up together, a fair few of which are covered by Zephyr above.

Serial number, proof marks, style of gun compared to others, engraving etc etc but you must remember that all of these firms had guns made by others for their clients.

So a fair bit of cross checking needs to be done.

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On most English Best Guns the markings on the top of the barrels will be the makers address at the time of the guns manufacture. On the Barrel flats you will find the provisional Black Powder proof, a Nitro Proof if the gun has been Nitro Proofed, Bore designation and how the gun was proofed (I think I got everything) All of these marks have changed some what over the years in fact you can roughly age a gun buy the proof marks
505G most of the London Best guns were made "in house" it's not until you get to the Birmingham Guns were you start to run into "Guild Guns" like my Gibbs 450 NE which as you know is a Webley barreled action Where guns were put together by barrel makers, actioners, stock makers and engravers before they ended up as a finished product.
 
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Zephyr

Agree.

What I was referring to was more a case of a customer who dealt with Purdey, Holland's etc may have ordered a gun through them that may have been made by someone else.

In addition, Scott's (in whatever incarnation their name was at the time) made most of Hollands guns up to a point and even after that made guns for them - boxlocks etc.


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