My son is looking for an entry level (inexpensive) 12 ga. O/U. Not necessarily the cheapest, but something of good value. Any suggestions?

You might look at CDNN, I noticed their advertising Veronas (pg. 45) for about $635. I'm quite pleased with mine, and they look like they cost 4 + as much. Very pretty guns for the price

Shoots good and the price is right for extra chokes.

What configuration is he looking for (ie single trigger vs double trigger) and what price range?

Consider a used Citori. I bought my son one last year for about $700. Solid gun, solid reputation, and everyone can work on them if need ever be. He (at 13) now routinely beats his mother at Sporting with it.

Darn those young eyes..... FWIW, Dutch.

A second hand Browning or Miroku may not be the cheapest, but very good value for money and being second hand, will keep its value over the years!

The Turkish-made Huglus (now sold under the CZ label) are decent guns for the money. You can probably get one new for about the price of a used Citori, but as has been mentioned, the used Citori will hold its value better.

But why a 12 gauge? A double is an upland gun, and upland hunting is far better with a 20 in my only slightly prejudiced opinion.

FWIW, the original Verona importer has serious financial problems from which they may or may not recover. Rizzini took over the importation of Verona guns and doubled the price. The CDNN guns are probably the left-over inventory of the previous importer and are one hell of a deal. Jump on 'em if you want one.

tiggertate, the parent company of BC outdoors, the verona importer is PMC ammo and they are closing their doors. The importer for F.A.I.R (Isadore Rizzini) is supposedly New England Firearms, not to be confused with the single shot company with a similar name. They really haven't surfaced yet as the importer but did supply some guns to Cabelas. Their price always was quite a bit above the Verona guns, but still less than the B. Rizzini guns. I have a LX692 Gold Combo 20 and 28 gauge set and really like the gun. I consider the closeout prices at CDNN to be a bargain. I can't fault the suggestions regarding a Citori, or a Miroku - and I consider this gun to be the best bargain in used O/U's today and am presently eyeballing one in 12 gauge with 30" barrels, with IC and Full chokes. I bought a 20 gauge last year and had Mike Orlen install choke tubes in it.

You can also get a very decent gun in one of the older Ithaca/skb O/U'ers.

I just ordered the Verona 20 ga/express rifle combo from CDNN. I used to really want a Browning Continental when I was a kid but for $2300 this will do just fine.

Bought a Bakail several years ago for around #325. One of the best shooters I have; fit is most important.

You can probably find a really nice Browning Citori or Winchester 101 on one of the auction sites. IMO it is a mistake to buy a cheap entry level shotgun. It will not hold up under extended use as will the Browning or Winchester and when it comes time to sell you almost have to pay someone to take it off your hands. You will wind up paying twice. Additionallly, get him something that fits. I have just been thru a drill with a Beretta that did not fit. It's recoil was painful and it slapped my face and jarred my teeth. I got to where I hated that gun. I replaced it with an SKB. They are surely moderatly priced, have good customer service and seem to hold up well. I think itis great that your son shoots. You all should have some fine times together