Howdy Fellas,
I was sitting Around Thinking Of A creative Load to Try Out for a 12 Gauge. I was thinking about combining a rifled slug not a sabot slug with #4 buck in the same shell, heres how I plan to do it. If I get a 3 1/2 inch hull and load the Dr. Eq. with Max Powder and then I put the plastic wad in, after that I fill the bottom of the shot cup with 1 oz. of #4 buckshot then I would place a piece of cardboard over the shot and place a 1 oz. rifled slug over it all. The total of the shot and slug equal 2 oz. which is what a normal 3 1/2 inch shell holds anyway. Do you guys think this is a safe loading plan? If It does work It would be pretty effective for home defense because the slug would be the single projectile then the shot would spread after the slug hit. PLEASE GIVE ME ALL THE IMPUT YOU CAN GIVE././ IF YALL THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE I GOT ONE LOADED AND ILL TRY IT IN AN OLD SHOTGUN THAT IS MOUNTED ON SOMETHING.

[ 09-28-2002, 06:14: Message edited by: RemingtonMan7 ]

Generally speaking, any shot size shot will do in for the ranges experienced in home defense because the pattern won't have opened up. 00 buck should handle just about any imaginable situation. (This is just from what I've read; I've never shot anyone in my house...yet )

A.) Where are you going to get an "old" shotgun chambered in 3.5" ?

B.) Hardly seems necessary for this type of load for anything. In home defense a good stiff load of #4s should work fine, without penetrating three rooms worth of drywall and having excessive "collateral damage" to possible other occupants.

just my $0.02

That idea is a bit too wacky for me to try.That cardboard wad between the shot and slug is going to be non-existant soon as you pull the trigger,then the shot is pressing the flare of the slug tighter to the bore[and you're giving it a running start].Only the lord only knows what the pressures are going to jack up to.I side with Red Label,#4's will be messy enough for home defense.The last thing you want to do,from a legal standpoint,,,is to shoot a perpetrator with a handload of any kind,especially some sort of concoction as you describe.If you don't belive us,,Just go to wally world and pick up the 3 1/2" shotshell in your shot size or slug preferance.Your lawyer will thank you.

Greetings! Sounds like you are hot on the trail of re-inventing "Buck & Ball" loads but don't try to get a patent as they used this in muskets as far back as the revolution at least, maybe beyond that. Also the advice about the legal angle is quite good as you can bet the legal vultures would be all over the bad man with the killer reloads.
Before you do this, try something for me. Go and get a scrap piece of sheet rock, say something about three feet sqare. Set it up at about 12-15 feet which is the distance of most bedrooms and pop a load of 71/2's or 8's into it. Impressed? Why should you want to use anything else? Now if you are going outdoors and shooting 40 yds or more, use buckshot. Inside the house, load the magazine of your pump gun with dove loads. If you have to have it for self defense, just the sould of chambering a round may be all you require and you might not have to shoot at all.
"Shoot straight, shoot safe and shoot a lot!"

Remington used to make some 12ga rock salt rounds,,,,Does anyone know if they're still availiable?