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A budby gave me a very sad 1100 2 3/4" 12 ga. It was absolutely filthy. Pitting rust everywhere. Absolutely full of fine dirt. Is is almost like it was buried or exposed to a dusty and caustic enviornment. It is cleaning up into a functional gun.

I could use a waterfowl gun. I like tungsten very much so, 2 3/4" is pleanty. I guess I should replace the plain modified barrel for one with chokes and a vent rib? Doesn't Remington make a barrel for steel shot? Gas port differences? Should I select that one?

The new finish, I am thinking of using black Parkerizing. I have parkerized before and it seems like natural for this application.

The stocks...The forend is split. The finish on all the wood is peeling off in sheets. The butstock retaining nut is frozen so, I intent on spliting up the butstock. I never did like the style of Remington shotgun stocks anyway. I am thiking of getting a Remington factory replacement synthetic stock. They are relatively cheap. Are they OK? Is is worth getting one of the more expensive aftermarket ones?

I have read that there is some difference in 1100 butstocks, pre and Post 1886. What is the difference. Will a new stock work on an old gun. Pretty sure mine is older than '86.

It looks like a decent package developing. An 1100, black synthetic stock, new vent rib barrel, black parkerized finish. Should be a no nonsense hard working gun. All for about $300 in parts. : )
 
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YES Rem makes a 1100 3" barrel that fits your 2 3/4" gun to shoot 2 3/4 or 3" steel and other nontoxic loads and 2 3/4 lead but not 3" lead.
Gas port are right.
If the stock will work (I think they do) ? (contact Rem to make sure) I would go with a syn stock and forearm from Rem.


Rem says this dosn't work but it dose !
By the way since you are replacing the forearm and barrel (MUST USE 11-87 forearm with 11-87 barrel to allow for all the parts )you could go with a Rem 11-87 barrel and forearm to take advantage of the gas compensation of the 11-87 barrel. Maybe you could find a used 11-87 barrel cheap for you to parkerize

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Scota - The Rem 1100 is a fine shotgun if you keep the chamber and gas port clean; that means taking better care of it than the last owner. Since it was free you can afford to invest in it if you can put the action back in shape. I would stock it with a Bell & Carlson synthetic stock; a bit more expensive than the Remington, but way better materials and has a wider rubber butt to soak up recoil. If you are going to shoot steel in it, the "stock" modified choke would be the best choice and it would work well as an "all arounder" for most game, except maybe turkey. While you can get replacement barrels for an "array" of choke tubes, rifle sightes, vent ribs, etc. etc. I wouldn't recommend shooting 3" shells in your 2 3/4" chambered action; it probably will not function and if it does fire you could have a real problem with a jam (or worse) in that 2 3/4" receiver. Your 2 3/4" gun was not designed to handle the longer shells or gas pressure; the 1100 "Magnums" WERE designed for 3" rounds and would not always function with light field loads. Even the barrels that show 3" chambers warn users not to use 3" shells in a 2 3/4" chamber gun. 2 3/4" rounds will fire just fine in a 3" chamber, but 2 3/4" receivers are too short to cycle 3" shells properly even in an 870 pump gun (which I have). Gas ports do work, but make the gun somewhat noisy; besides, the gas operation makes the 1100 such a "pussycat" to shoot that porting would be a superfulous addition. Good luck with your new/old gun. Mags
 
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Hope you have gas seals and rings on the list. I sure they will need replaced. I picked up a 1100 LT-20 a couple of years ago for cheap because it would not cycle. The gun exterior and barrel would rate excellent. Now the mag tube and seals were terrible. Polished the magazine tube with XXXX steel wool and replaced
the seals and have a very nice 20ga.

mags is on the money with his advice about 3 inch shells in 2 3/4 chambers.
 
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They just moved the ejectorso 3" shells could eject.
The chamber length and where the ejector is what controlls what can be shot out of a 1100.
I do not beleve that the ejection port on a 3" gun is any longer than that on a 2 3/4" gun .

Here is a quote from Rem web site
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‡ NOTE: Model 1100 Steel Shot Barrels are designed for use with 2-3/4" or 3" Magnum steel or lead shot shells when used on Magnum receivers and 2-3/4" or 3" Magnum steel or 2-3/4" lead shotshells when used on non-Magnum receivers


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Great input, thanks guys. I guess I was not clear on the steel shot issue. Let me be more clear. If I never shoot another steel shot shell it will be too soon. Steel shot is an abomination. It think it was a backhanded anti hunting move. I digress. I will continue to shoot tungsten on waterfowl. That means 2 3/4" only. I also shoot lots of doves to #8 lead will be used. I want a rib. This barrel does not have one. I was thinking of getting an ordinary 2 3/4" ribbed barrel with the swapable chokes. If I could find a no tube ribbed barrel, cheaper, that would be fine as I can ajust the choke as necessary to work well with the tungsten. The #8 doves loads is no big problem to me. I really don't care about the pattern here. As long as I know how the guns shoots I can adapt my shots to it.

A little tip on the frozen butstock screw. I found a spade bit in my junk drawer that fit the slot. I ground it to make a piloted spanner. Soaked the not in oil for a couple of days. I put a vice grip on the spade bit shank and wacked it with a hammer while twisting it. Broke it loose without damaging anything.
 
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Originally posted by johnch:
They just moved the ejectorso 3" shells could eject.
The chamber length and where the ejector is what controlls what can be shot out of a 1100.
I do not beleve that the ejection port on a 3" gun is any longer than that on a 2 3/4" gun .

Here is a quote from Rem web site
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‡ NOTE: Model 1100 Steel Shot Barrels are designed for use with 2-3/4" or 3" Magnum steel or lead shot shells when used on Magnum receivers and 2-3/4" or 3" Magnum steel or 2-3/4" lead shotshells when used on non-Magnum receivers


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John,
The 1100 12 ga. Magnum receiver is different than the standard receiver. Barrels will will fit but the gun usually will not cycle shells correctly due the recieiver/ejector configuration.
The 1187 barrels will not fit the 1100 receiver.
 
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HMMMMM I wonder why I have been using 26" 11-87 barrel on my 1100 skeet gun now for 10 or so years if it would not fit.
All I did was replace the forearm and it works.

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John, I have no reason to doubt you, but from the drawings the barrels and gas seals appear different. I went on the Remington site to do some digging on this subject at theSupport
site and found the following. My concern is the failure of the firearm when the wrong parts are assembled. Especially when the person assembling the parts may not have the experince of a dedicated gun hobbyist.
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From Remington Support
Question: What is the difference between the Model 1100 and Model 1187?

Answer:
In 1987, the new gas compensated 1187 was introduced. The 1100 and the 1187 are similar in design. Barrels are not interchangeable between these models.

The gas cylinders are welded in slightly different locations. This is partly because the 11-87 has a longer magazine tube. The 11-87 also has 2 gas orifice holes. Only the 2-3/4 inch chambered version of the 1100 will have two. The magnum 1100 barrel has only one.

The 1100 can shoot only 2 3/4" or 3" shells depending on the barrel installed, and with the 1187 models with magnum barrels can shoot both 2 3/4" and 3" shells. To accomplish this, two additional holes are drilled in the top/front of the gas cylinder, and covered with a tempered steel spring. There is a relief cut made into the gas cylinder to accommodate the spring. The Model 1100 gas cylinder will not have the relief cut or the spring.

The Model 11-87 also uses a wider extractor. Therefore, the extractor cut in the breech end of the barrel will be wider than the 1100.

The Model 11-87 also has a slightly longer barrel extension. This is the part that connects directly into the receiver.
 
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When I istalled my barrel 1100 barrels were hard to impossable to get .
A freindly Rem tec that wanted to remain namless told me about insalling the 11-87 barrel.
The gas comp ring on the barrel ring takes care of the excess gas.
A 11-87 forearm allows the extra parts to fit ,where a 1100 forearm would not allow them.
There seams to enough room for the barrel ext. to fit .

Remington is more worryed about selling new guns ,the 1100 steel shot barrel did not come out till lots of 11-87 barrels were allready installed on 1100's


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I've had my 1100 12ga since 1977 when I bought it new for $279 (Skeet/B grade). It's been a wonderful gun and has never let me down. It's in great shape, but reading this post has me thinking of digging it out of the safe for a wipe-down. Smiler


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