Help with translating markings on barrel

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04 July 2005, 15:22

cr500

Help with translating markings on barrel

/I,m looking at an old sidelock sxs shotgun for sale made by "JP Sauer & John Suhl" . One marking is "nicht fur kugel" ,what does this mean? I,m thinking it is "not for ?????)
Also written is "fluss-stahl" on the left barrel(is this fluid steel?) and "krupp-essen" on the right barrel with serial number 91367.
Can anyone tell me anything about what these mean? Anyone know anthing about these shotguns?

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04 July 2005, 20:06

mete

nicht fur kugel = not for slug. Krupp is a german steel maker .Fluss stahl I assume is fluid steel as opposed to damascus.

05 July 2005, 03:17

cr500

AH ,not for slug. Thats OK I was hoping it wasnt something like not for nitro loads or something along those lines. I was only going to use it for low/medium presure loads anyway.

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10 July 2005, 07:37

Dutch

With Essen being the town near the Ruhr where Krupp was located, and Suhl the name of the town where it was built. HTH, Dutch.

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10 July 2005, 08:33

Grizzly Adams

Hello;
I would assume that is JP Sauer und Sohn, not a cheap or shoddy piece.
Grizz

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10 July 2005, 11:41

cr500

The side locks have engraved on them "JP Sauer & John Suhl"

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