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Need input from those of you that have a PFS. I know that some consider them unsightly, but I am looking for a perfect fit and reduced recoil. Could you tell me any disadvantages that I am not aware of ? Do they get loose and out of adjustment, etc. Is the PFS suitable for all of the shotgun games ? I would install the PFS on a K-80. How would it alter the balance of the gun compared to the factory wood ?
Thank you for your help.
Jim
 
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They do reduce recoil but they can be difficult to set up properly for you. If you decide to buy one buy it at a larger shoot and have it set up just for you --- and then don't change it. A side note -- if you gain or lose weight the "fit" will change and you'll need to do it over again.

They do require some maintenance but from what friends who shoot them have told me if you can ride and bike and whistle you should be able to do it.

You might also consider several other options. The Soft-Touch works very well and they can modify your existing stock or build you a new one. Google "Soft-Touch" for into. Phil Simms in Colorado makes a nifty sysytem that I've been thinking about but it close toe $3K.


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Thank you, George. You make sense ! Have not done anything yet and after reading your advice, probably will not. I was mainly interested in the PFS for the fit, however my present stock does very well if I do my part !
Thanks again,
Jim
 
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Bill,
PFS claims up to 50% reduction in recoil. the bars slide and there is a spring system I believe to defer the recoil.

I have never shot one but I know a couple from Utah that both have them and love them. I have heard from a lot of people who do not share the feeling about them.


Chic Worthing
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Chic --- I think the fellows who don't like then are those that can't leave well-enough alone. I've seen guns shooting great scores after they get one but then start to "tinker" with them -- and then the fun starts as all the little magic parts fall out - get dirty -- can't get them back in the correct way etc etc -- and then it's the unit's fault. tu2

Of the recoil reduction units that I've shot and know work but don't look to awlfully ugly are (1) the JS Air-Cushion stock done by Joe Shiozaki (I think they're around $1200 now) and the Moe Bragg's Soft-Touch with the magnets for about the same price.

I've owned them both and prefer the Air-Cushion (1) they don't look strange, (2) they are easily and quickly adjustable, (3) basically no parts to replace or wear-out, (4) Joe is one of the nicest guys I know and stands behind his gear 100%, and (5) I can get to his shop in about 20 minutes.

If any of you have seen the old hydro-coil set-up's the air-cushion is very similar except rather than work by displacing a fluid then work by displacing air ---- and before any of the nit-picking experts tell me that air is also a fluid I know.

If someone had $3K to spend Phil Simms, the world's best waterfowl caller and guide Winkis a also a very talented sotck maker who has a new unit that would be my choice if I was recoil sensitve. PS Phil really is a top-notch waterfowl guy.


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Bill, I have shot a air shock that belongs to a friend and it does a wonderful job. Joe does a nice job shaping the stock so it does not look like an orthopedic device.

I saw a discussion on trapshooters about the Phil Simms system and saw the cost also but that cost I believe includes a new stock.

I am restocking my Perazzi MX2000 and am considering one of those British ISIS devices. I don't need a lot of reduction to feel comfortable and think one of those might do just what I need. I have shot one belonging to Tim Nagel from Billings and it was very comfortable.


Chic Worthing
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