Gidday,
I was after a bit of help.
What do you think of a second hand Winchester model 101 Super grade trap, in 12G, 28" over & under.
I am after a shotgun for rabbits, foxes ,birds and a bit of clay shooting,do you think this would suit?
Thanks for the advice,
Peter

The 101 is an exceptionally tough and durable action. That said, it was never very popular with trap shooters, am not sure of the reasons but there are many competing guns so it is a tough market to crack. I shoot the sporting model (pigeon grade with screw in chokes) with 27 inch barrels as my primary shotgun. IMO, all things considered, there is no finer shotgun for all around hunting use in the reasonable price range.

The only drawbacks I see to your choice would be, the stock comb height, which is curable, and I believe the trap models only came in 2 3/4 inch chambers, which is also curable but usually requires a gunsmith, and may not be a concern for your use. I'd see if I could try it out first on a range and see how you like it. Hope this helps.

a Trap gun has a high comb, not good for hunting (can be reworked). You also want screw in chokes. Target guns (trap & skeet) get shot a lot, many rounds, make sure it is tight. The 101 is out of production, parts may be hard to get if needed.I have seen a new 101 have a hammer/sear problems from wear after only being fired little. If the price is right, buy it. If you can buy a used Browning Citori for the same money, get the Citori.

Thanks for the advice,will use it when I have another look at it this week-end.
Thanks,
Peter

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The 101 is so superior to a Citori that there is no comparison. I shot a Citori loose in one season shooting blackbirds mostly. Browning was nice enough to only charge me a $175 to tighten it up again, and I moved it on down the road. After a little research and shooting, I went to 101s and have never looked back. They are probably the toughest O/Us ever made. One of mine has over a half million shots thru it and, while not factory tight is still perfectly functional. It has broken one ejector, and one ejector hammer in that period. Neither stops the gun from functioning. I could go, but pay attention to who is shooting what when high volumes are involved. Nothing wrong with a Citorit, but they are not anywhere near the gun a 101 is.

Thanks for the response it has come in handy.
Next question is anyone know about a Rizini Hombra that comes with sling swivels? I looked at so many today I have forgot even if it was a Rizini or a Bakial!
They seem like good shotguns.
Peter

Pete, I have a 101 that's over 30 years old and has never fail to fire or eject. In other words, its been indestructable for me. I also have a Ruger Red Label that is a drean to shoot. It mounts good, swings easy and hits where its pointed. I just bought my daughter a Lanber. Made in Spain and very popular in Europe. Paid less than $500 for it. It too mounts good and hits where its pointed. In 30 years I'll post a durability report on the Lanber.