I want to get one I can use on my ARs (5.56, Colt and S&W).

What are the benefits of these various brands I am looking at or others I haven't heard of?

AAC
Gemtech
Coastal
Surefire
Ops Inc


Mounting options....threaded mount, remove flash hider and use existing thread, which seems to be a lot cheaper.....versus the various quick release type mounts? Any advantage of one over the other? I don't care about taking it on and off quickly as I will use it for hunting not combat.

Definetly you should use the existing thread as long as it's cut concentrically with the bore and not the outer contour.

Make sure you get calibre specific baffles for your suppressor as a cheap way, if you're buying the thing new, to maximise efficiency.

I would recommend a strippable model if it's going to get thousands of rounds a year down it but for a hunting gun a quick squirt with WD40 and leaving them to dry on a warm radiator is all they need in normal use.

They are as good as an average muzzle break at taming muzzle flip especially and much, much kinder on your ears.

On a semi .223 with a good suppressor, long barrel and calibre specific is a good deal quieter than a .22 RF.

From a hundred yards or so you'd be hard pushed to hear it and the sonic crack would be the loudest part.

I find loading with the minimum amount of the fastest powder helps as part of the methodology as there is less gas to deal with. If you have quickload it is very handy to look at the muzzle pressures a given load generates and find the lowest one that gives the right performance.

I have a Gemtech Halo on my M16. Fits on anything with a A2 flash Hider so no threading required. Quieter than a .22lr and hearing safe. There are better cans but I like the Halo.-Rob

Cans seem to be like cars; you can spend as much or little as you like. How much you shoot it may have a lot to do with how much you should spend. Here's what I've decided:

1. It has to be owner-servicable. That is, I have to be able to disassemble it for cleaning and/or replacing internals.

2. Don't waste your money on a high-pressure magnum cartridge can if you aren't shooting one. It won't be any quieter than the less expensive can made for the smaller round.

3. Other than one specific rifle I'm building for a pecific purpose, my centerfire cans have to be removable so they can be used on multiple weapons. The exception is 22 and 17 rimfires which have easy barrel changes. Integrals on 22 lr pistols are too sleek to pass.

2. Putting a can on a short barreled centerfire rifle is like buying new titties for a butt-ugly woman. You'll never enjoy all they should have to offer.

I disagree there tigger, some New titties, as you put it, can elevate a butt ugly girl into something, erm, servicable.

Getting a rifle with a moderator on it is the equivilent of going ugly early anyway so why not get something, erm, handy?

Women of substance seldom need such customizing, Ghubert.

Women of substance don't get suppressors, erm, screwed on to them!

It's like buying her new titties on the condition that she also has to have a Barbara Striesand nose!

One category is supremely ornamental whereas the other is supremely functional.

the only guy I know who builds even remotly attractive suppressed rifles is Steve Bowers of England, his look like bullbarreled wood stocked stalking rifles and do rather well.

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Originally posted by Ghubert:


I would recommend a strippable model if it's going to get thousands of rounds a year down it but for a hunting gun a quick squirt with WD40 and leaving them to dry on a warm radiator is all they need in normal use..

Those of us with suppressed centerfire rifles do not buy nor recommend people but strippable cans. They do not last as long as non strippable cans, plus cleaning is not required. Go to Silencer talk dot com and snipers hide dot com and you will see that none of them use strippable cans. The cans are basically self cleaning due to the high flow of gasses. Rimfire cans need cleaning due to the dirty propellant typical in rimfire ammo and the lack of sufficient gasses to self clean the can.

If you're putting a can on an AR-15 the very first thing I would suggest is a gas buster charging handle. Save those eyeballs, they're more important than your ears!

Cleaning a "non-serviceable" can is no problem. Let the can soak in a mixture of 1/2 mineral spirits and 1/2 transmission fluid for a few days then take it out and shoot it. The tranny fluid has a carbon detergent in it that will loosen all the gunk in it.

IMO, I would start out with a .22 rimfire can 1st. They're a lot more fun!

Terry

I shoot rifles with peep sights left handed. The gas buster did nothing for me. I always wear glasses though.

Ranb

What's a "gas buster" charging handle and why would I need it?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by Cane Rat:
What's a "gas buster" charging handle and why would I need it?

Thanks.

When you put a can on an AR-15 you upset the design of the rifle. The new restriction on the end of the barrel creates a lot of extra pressure in the gas system and it over loads it. You'll notice it real fast by how much faster your BCG cycles. It will increase recoil and sometimes it'll even make the BCG bottom the buffer out. Because of this extra pressure sometimes you'll have gas that escapes out of the action and some gets out under the charging handle exactly where your eye ball is. Most of the time you just get a sting on your face but there is a real chance of getting trash shot in your eye from the gas escaping. The gas buster charging handle is designed so the gas is diverted away and escapes elsewhere. It's just cheap insurance.


If you're left handed your face is right where the gun poops anyway.

One thing to keep in mind is there are trade offs when running a can. Carbon build up will increase dramaticly and the barrel will gunk up faster along with the stuff mentioned above. None of it is a deal breaker, just stuff most of us found out the hard way

Terry

Thanks Terry!


That makes perfect sense and I would have never thought of that. Lots of good info in your response. Much appreciated.

They can be a handy tool in some cases!

G'Day Fella's,

This is the first time I've looked into this section. Must have had tired eyes and missed it in the past?

I design and manufacture a number of firearm related items, including my own Rim and Centerfire sound suppressors/silencers. Not sure if any of you blokes might be interested in having a look at them but if you are, send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you an image and a description.

Doh!
Homer

Cane Rat,

Just got my first can ... a 22 LR can. Have Form 4s in for a 30 cal and a 9mm can as well.

5.56 is apparently not an easy chambering to suppress. The good ones are not user serviceable as can be had in 22 LR and the pistol caliber cans.

I can tell you that my first experience was an eye-opener for me. Bought the can with a SIG Mosquito and had a bbl done for an old High Standard M106 that has been sitting in the safe for a bit over 40 years. The High Standard stands head and shoulders over the new junk!

Cans are a HOOT!