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Why are silencers so expensive in America and so cheap every where else?
25 January 2016, 18:13
Big Wonderful WyomingWhy are silencers so expensive in America and so cheap every where else?
A quick cursory glance through foreign gunsmiths in Europe and New Zealand leaves a price of about $180-300 for a silencer.
The average American rifle silencer is somewhere between $750 and 1250.
Why are we getting the shaft?
The thing has no moving parts, and is made of materials that aren't $1000 per pound so why do we get screwed?
25 January 2016, 20:57
GeorgeSBecause of all the government regulations that must be complied with by the manufacturer and all the licenses and fees they must pay.
George
25 January 2016, 21:28
Big Wonderful WyomingWow!
I am glad things are moving forward in making it a non NFA item.
Hopefully that happens.
25 January 2016, 22:04
drhall762Also there is the good old supply and demand aspect. In countries like Finland hunters are more than encouraged to use suppressors on their rifles. It is a public health (hearing) issue. In France virtually anyone in town has a suppressor for their .22 rim fire so they can shoot pigeons without disturbing the neighbors. When I was last in Paris the gun shops have them in blister packs on the rack.
Here we are just behind the rest of the world.
Dave
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26 January 2016, 06:39
Peterquote:
Because of all the government regulations that must be complied with by the manufacturer and all the licenses and fees they must pay.
And that's why they are more expensive than many firearms??? HUH?
Peter.
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26 January 2016, 08:00
DCS MemberIt was interesting to watch the NRA sponsored show on the history of suppressors. If I recall, the inventor moved on to create auto mufflers because the $200 tax stamp and regulations drove him out of that business.
I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.
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26 January 2016, 08:31
Idaho SharpshooterWhat GeorgeS said, plus one!
26 January 2016, 19:49
Big Wonderful Wyomingquote:
Originally posted by Peter:
quote:
Because of all the government regulations that must be complied with by the manufacturer and all the licenses and fees they must pay.
And that's why they are more expensive than many firearms??? HUH?
Peter.
I am with you on this, I think we are being taken for fools.
26 January 2016, 21:12
GeorgeSLook at the costs of the licenses and taxes for being a manufacturer of NFA items compared to a manufacturer of 'regular' arms.
If those weren't required, suppressor costs would come down. Also, other outfits would enter the market and drive prices down further.
You could always make your own suppressors on a Form 1 for the cost of the $200 tax and materials.
George
27 January 2016, 05:21
marshmandanHere's another example..... For me to buy a particular suppressor from an out of state dealer he has to send a Form 3 to the BATFE and get it approved just to be able to transfer the suppressor to my instate dealer. Once it is approved, then he can ship it to my local dealer so I can then send in the actual paper work to be able to take it home.
27 January 2016, 05:43
Big Wonderful Wyomingquote:
You could always make your own suppressors on a Form 1 for the cost of the $200 tax and materials.
George
Didn't know that! Thanks!
28 January 2016, 19:24
ranb40quote:
Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
The thing has no moving parts, and is made of materials that aren't $1000 per pound so why do we get screwed?
With the $200 tax, 1-4 month wait and no end user replacement of parts, the buyer wants a durable silencer that lasts years and thousands of rounds instead of a cheap unit they can replace every 1000 rounds or so. This drives prices up.
Do you part and urge your Congressperson to take silencers off the NFA registry.
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In my opinion the best accessory to put on a rifle is a silencer.
10 April 2016, 04:03
Woodrow SWon't ever happen. You would not need as many BATFE agents/employees....you ever see an ABC agency get SMALLER? Forget about it and move on with your life.
31 May 2016, 23:08
tiggertatequote:
Originally posted by Peter:
quote:
Because of all the government regulations that must be complied with by the manufacturer and all the licenses and fees they must pay.
And that's why they are more expensive than many firearms??? HUH?
Peter.
It's matter of volume. Far fewer units produced and sold per regulatory dollar of cost than most firearms. Even military contracts are fractions of civilian arms sales.
Also a matter of design. An aluminum/steel can for a 22LR is orders of magnitude cheaper than my Inconel and stainless 30 caliber rated for full auto 7.62 x 51 (from an 8 inch barrel no less). I got it so I could shoot 300 Weatherbies until I melted the barrel and not need to go through the crap again to replace a worn suppressor.
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