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A wild Gaur bull captured on camera running through a rural village in India.  I wonder if a population could be established in Argentina for hunting purpose ? Afterall Asiatic Water Buffalo has done quite well in Argentina (and Australia). Gaur is a very majestic animal, many buildings in United Kingdom still showcase Gaur trophies taken by the British hunters during the Raj (pre 1947). Big bulls can easily top 2,000 lbs, that is couple of hundred pounds more than an Eland. I would love to see these beautiful animals back on the trophy list. | ||
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Picture I took a few years ago of a mounted Gaur pair in the Asiatic section of Natural History Museum in New York City.  | |||
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One of the most awe inspiring animals for sheer majesty and power! My hear skips every time I see a wild bull gaur. the balck shiny skin with rippling muscles and the ridge on the back are just amazing. I hope to visit some sanctuaries later this year in India! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Now that is an animal to make your bumhole pucker straight up! They are incredible tanks for sure! | |||
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Just to add few points - the largest Gaur bull is said to have weighted closer to 3000 lbs. The big bulls stand 6' 4" at the hump! I have seen trophy mounted horns in the region of 47 to 48 inches span - shot in the western ghats of South India in the 1940s or 50s. When you see them in real life and up close, it is an incrdible feeling - no other animal except the tiger or leopard elicits such emotions in me. A great chital stag might come a distant close! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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According to National Geographic TV, the Bengal Tiger is nearly extinct and we need to send lots of $ to save them. Just wondering if the demise of the tiger isn't a good thing for the Gaur? Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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Various zoos around the world have had great success working with Guar. The problem is or would be getting their CITIES status changed. Rumor that I have heard a few different times over the years was that at one time a ranch here in Texas had a small group of Guar and offered hunts. The Gladys Porter Zoo in Brownsville, Texas and the Oklahoma City Zoo in OKC and I believe the Henry Doorly Zoo in Omaha, Nebraska all had good success with these wonderful animals. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Wow! They make a Cape Buffalo look like a sissy! | |||
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Looks like he's on steroids!  They have some at the San Diego Safari Park (unfortunately in a paddock in the back where you have to buy an additional tour to go see). I had my binoculars with me one day when I was there, had to do a double take when I saw one. I knew what a guar was, but didn't realize how massive they grew to. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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If I am not mistaken, in old stories and reports I have read, Gaur Bulls could weigh up to 3K pounds and 6 and 1/2 to almost 7 feet at the top of its withers/hump. Having seen them up close in zoos, to actually see one in the wild is or would be the whole contents of my bucket list if I had one. What really suprises me, is with water buffalo and banteng having been introduced into Austrailia, why weren't Gaur? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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CHC - the 6.5 foot to 7 foot stories are just that. The wild waterbuffalo which is very endangered does get to 6foor 6 inches at the withers. The water buffalo in Australia were actually draft domestic animals that went feral. The wild water buffalo is a lot bigger & a WHOLE LOT meaner. The tiger is under threat because of renewed poaching for bone used in the Asian native medicine market (Vietnam is a big market now). The one place where the tiger feeds largely on gaur is in Nagerhole national park. In other areals the frequency of gaur killed by tigers is quite low. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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What an amazing creature. I would have loved to have seen the conclusion of the jump in that picture. Must be great watching a 2000-2500 pound animal land after a full stretch jump. The price of knowledge is great but the price of ignorance is even greater. | |||
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I'd hazard a guess along the lines of Naki PLUS 1. Would you have caught one 2. then put it on a long boat trip 3. and had to feed it all the while OK, they could have got young one's but even so, Buffalo and Banteng were probably enough to feed them. . Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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Gaur are among my very favorite of the Ox Bovines. For those of you who have facebook accounts and want to join, many of us belong to a great FB page dedicated to the Buffaloes and all of the rest of the Ox bovines including Guar, the even mightier Kouprey and more! PM me for details if you'd like to join that page, there are many AR members already there. ~Ann   | |||
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Asia without people would be amazing. | |||
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So would the entire world. The price of knowledge is great but the price of ignorance is even greater. | |||
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Not the entire world obviously. There would be nothing to hunt in New Zealand if not for people. | |||
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I have recently watched a television program where a South African game capture team taught Indian reserve staff how to and then proceed to capture and relocate Gaur. Have a look at the video. http://www.andbeyond.com/carli...n-project-2011-2012/ | |||
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Let me rephrase. The entire world would be a better place without humans. That's what I wanted to say in the first place in response to a clearly idiotic and off topic comment. The price of knowledge is great but the price of ignorance is even greater. | |||
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Doug, awesome video of gaur capture and translocation. Thanks. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Awesome video. Can you imagine trying to capture one in 1850's onwards and transporting it ? Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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When folks were moving animals around, at the time most of the introductions were being made, there just may have not been a source for Gaur readily available. The King Ranch imported Nilgia to Texas in the 1930's, and Austrailia is a lot closer than Texas. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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It could still be done on the quiet, with the transfer of fertilised ovum. SSsshh! I never said a word.  | |||
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More inviro wacko stuff. How would you or anybody know if it would be a better place. And why would it be a better place. I guess it would be better with fewer people only if I were the one to pick and chose who would be left.  | |||
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Excellent video, Many Thanks for posting it.  Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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May be you missed the point? My post was a response to a post that I found .... ahhhh forget it. The price of knowledge is great but the price of ignorance is even greater. | |||
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I am planning a family trip to India in Dec. We will definitely do a couple of sanctuary visits & I am sure we will see gaur. This time we might try Kabini / Nagarhole - the one are where tigers regularly kill gaur. In fact this is the only area whre the main prey animal is gaur! Look at this and others on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBs_AABShzA Cant wait! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Hi Naki In previous posts you indicated you visit areas close to where Kenneth Anderson did, or supposedly did, a lot of his hunting. Have you ever ventured up into the northern areas where Jim Corbett lived and hunted his man-eaters? Is a dream of mine to visit that area if ever I get the means and time. I understand there is a National Park in his name too. | |||
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Just saw the above post .... been a bit buys!  Yes I have visited a lot of areas where Kenneth Anderson wrote all his fiction books about! His son Don hunted a lot more and shot a few tigers but not his dad. Don used to visit my father to get his annual hunting licence renewed. I remember this as late as 1970 or so. Don is now about 75 and my brother goes out with him occasionally to watch game in some sanctuaries. Don really likes my bothers 4 wheel drive vehicle! I have visited Corbett National park a few times as a PG University student in 1977 to 1980. On one occasion I saw 3 tigers within a period of about 20 minutes on an elephant ride. Amazing experience. I also visited Corbett's old house near Kaladhungi and saw his old furniture, medicine bottles etc. It is still maintained as a small museum ... sort of. BTW - I have just confirmed booking for the family to visit India for a family wedding in Dec - all 5 of us! I plan to visit Kabini - Nagerhole National Park in the south. Plenty of big gaur there. This is the only area where tigers kill gaur as the primary prey animal! Can't wait! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Say Hi to Don, should you meet him this time around, Naki. I last met him in the 79 or 80 with Ralph Mitchell in Bangalore ( house near the VT Museum) He had a couple of walls of his 'game room' full of shikar pics. I was privileged to handle his 423 Mauser, 315IOF and 12 Ga.he also showed me the butt of a 500 express cleanly broken at the wrist by a toss of a gaur's horns. Man, that guy had enough pics /memories to last a couple of rebirths.Any news of Greenwood,Bosinger and other Bangalore shikar stalwarts? Cheers it dont mean a thing-if it aint got no zing!! | |||
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Ashok, Don't know if you have already done this, but if you can, do visit the High Range Club in Munnar. Some absolutely monster Gaur up on the walls there. Let me know when you are in country  Regards S | |||
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This is Belvoir Castle in United Kingdom. Please note the Gaur head on the right wall.  A Gaur full shoulder mount...done with modern taxidermy techniques would make one hell of a trophy. | |||
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A big massive bull like that in top condition weighs well over 2,000 pounds. Hope he landed o'k as that looks like a treacherous jump. | |||
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I do not mean to argue or offend anyone - But IMHO there is some thing odd about that bull. It is VERY impressive - BUT - Either the taxidermist got the horn configuration wrong or it is not a gaur but some other ox. The gaur horns are a simple classic upward curving pair of horns. No hooks ot turning tips. This bull has forward turning horns with curled tips. Look at these fficial&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fQN5UKCPCK6ViAe3p4HQAg&ved=0CCAQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=862" target="_blank">https://www.google.co.nz/searc...sAQ&biw=1280&bih=862 On second thoughts, could this be a Spanish bull? "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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I was wondering about that, it looks like a spanish 'bull fight" bull with that horn configuration. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Look at the mounts from the natural history museum. They curve inward. Thrust me, that is no spanish fighting bull as they don't have that massive dorsal ridge; only the north american and european bison have that kind of dorsal ridge. | |||
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I could be wrong, no great shakes there, but that is not a shoulder mount, neck and head only, and a gaur's horns go toward their back, not in front of their face. I do not believe that is the head of a gaur in that picture. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I am now convinced that the mount is NOT a Gaur. Totally differnt horn configuration, boss between horns not high enough etc. The ibex mounts in a European castle - Spanish context???? "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Controversy-free Gaur heads on the wall....let the speculation begin   | |||
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