Every year for two weeks i am staying in our hunting area in Kazakstan.
This year i was in Thjan-Shan Mountans Kyrgyzstans and i can see only the photo from my friend. I have received the photo from him and must say - he has taken a great stag.
Waidmannsheil Jurgen!

few photos last year






hunting lodge:

Very impressive!
I don't think I've ever stayed in a place that nice....but I would if I had to so I could hunt stags of that quality.
Thanks PH for sharing the photos.
Zeke

Thanks for sharing, Igor! How many Kg do the trophies weigh?

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Originally posted by Caracal:
Thanks for sharing, Igor! How many Kg do the trophies weigh?

Hi Dennis,

i dont know, but this one think 10-11KG.
the second stag was 12-13.
i will post the photo soon as possible.

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Originally posted by ZekeShikar:
Very impressive!
I don't think I've ever stayed in a place that nice....but I would if I had to so I could hunt stags of that quality.
Thanks PH for sharing the photos.
Zeke

And you wont if you are hunting wild free range stags in the mountains.

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Originally posted by reddy375:

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Originally posted by ZekeShikar:
Very impressive!
I don't think I've ever stayed in a place that nice....but I would if I had to so I could hunt stags of that quality.
Thanks PH for sharing the photos.
Zeke

And you wont if you are hunting wild free range stags in the mountains.

@reddy375
You were never in these area, and already argue and do conclusions.
How many time you were in Kazakhstan?
As it seems to me, you were in Kazakhstan once in life, and I there happen every year several times.
i was born in Kazakstan, so i know Kazakstan better as you.
this is a best hunting area in Kazskatan wild -free range 140000ha!!!

Yeah how come in one of your own photos you had a picture of them loading a maral stag into a 4WD vehicle. I guess you know the area so well you knew the back roads to drive in to the wilderness.

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Yeah how come in one of your own photos you had a picture of them loading a maral stag into a 4WD vehicle. I guess you know the area so well you knew the back roads to drive in to the wilderness.

you wish to be the good agent, but you do know Asia very badly if you argue about the fenced hunting grounds on the basis of Russian jeep in a photo. I know, you weren't in Tajikistan so ask hunters who was. Whether there are there Russian jeeps. It will be to help to you to understand that a "4x4 russian jeep" on a photo and the hunt in a wild nature aren't antipodes.


But I think that is better not to argue with who really well knows the region.

I , for example, don't pry into Africa or Alaska.I don't know these places. I do only that I well know.

Profyhunter,
I don't visit the Asian forums much, but it seems there are folks that can't help but post negative comments as they do in the American threads.

Well here is one Texas redneck that thinks those photos are magnificent.
I'll probably never get to view the sights and vistas your pictures give a glimpse of,so from my perspective, your pictures allow me to live vicariously and use my imagination in regards to the beauty and majesty of your hunting area.

Thanks for posting those pix. I'll have to start dropping by more often.

Best

GWB

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Originally posted by Geedubya:

Thanks for posting those pix. I'll have to start dropping by more often.

Best

GWB

Thanks,
you are welcome!

As I close end of year on my two year assignment here in Atyrau I really regret not having found the time for a hunt for Maral stag. I never even made it to Almaty for a little R&R...

@Caracal

Hello Dennis, the second stag:

What area is it please ? In or around Borovoi ? (I enjoy going to Kazakhstan more or less every year since 1990)

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Originally posted by acteon:
What area is it please ? In or around Borovoi ? (I enjoy going to Kazakhstan more or less every year since 1990)

Hello Franc,
I think, that you know Kazakstan much more as Ajurun Reddy, so you can talk to him, that this area is one of the best hunting area Kazakstans.
without fences.

Regards
Igor

FYI, Buyer beware. I booked a hunt through Igor (Profyhunter) and hunted with his contact in Kyrgyzstan for Ibex this past September, 2012. On that hunt we were arrested by the police because the outfitter did not properly fill out all the necessary paperwork or had the proper Governmental Person along on the hunt to make sure the outfitter hunted correctly. With the arrest they also confiscated our trophies, horns and the capes of the Ibex. The outfitter assured us that he would get back the trophies and ship them at his expense in 2 weeks and that we would not have to pay him the balance of the hunt until we received the trophies. On my return I notified Igor of this as he was the booking agent/ part owner of this operation. Igor then changed the date to December. Well guys December is gone and now Igor and his outfitter want us to pay them in full for our hunt before they will ship us the promised trophies. I believe they just wanted to suck us out of our money and not ship us the hunted trophies we took. I believe the skins are bad or damaged at this point and they will be shipping to us either rotten or someone else's animals not our own. First off Kyrgyzstan is a corrupt country and everyone should not be trusted, secondly Igor made all of these promises that he runs this outfitter and he calls the shots with him. Instead of making the situation right , he as added to the shamelessness of asking for our payments before we have in our possessions the skins in hand ( Bribery !!!) Now to add to all of this I was promised and set with our Booking Agent Igor, that we would combine our Ibex hunt with a Roe Deer hunt, well guess what again. The outfitter made every excuse in the book to not take us on the Roe Deer hunt , The Deer hunt that was booked with Igor. Igor uses this web site as free advertising for his bookings and uses the cancellation hunt as a means of attracting clients. We bit on this and got screwed. I can tell you that his pricing he states in the cancellation is exactly the same deal you can get from the outfitter anytime, it is no savings, they are trying to get you to fill an open spot.. If you want more info PM me back here on this forum. There were three of us on this hunt and I will get the other as well to post theirs on here too.
Steve - USA Hunter

As an update to the goings on with us trying to get this resolved. We have agreed, just yesterday with the outfitter Adilet Ulukmanov and with Profyhunter to pay in full the amount owed to them for the hunt, if they would cover the cost of what we would have to pay the US Import Broker for their fees for us to import the trophies back into the US. The outfitter Adilet Ulukmanov, stated in an email that " We are not being serious" in our attempt to get this resolved.

In addition I have asked the outfitter to provide some pictures of the capes and hides of the Ibex so we have knowledge that they were well taken care of and that the hair is intact and not slipping. The outfitter Adilet Ulukmanov stated that " We will just have to take his word that they are in good shape" He also made comments "That shit happens on hunts and that nothing always goes as planned". This was made in reference to my inquiry of the mistakes that were made on our hunt and the fact the the police had confiscated our Ibex in relation to what the outfitter had not done with the proper paperwork or documentation.

We had everything arranged with US Fish & Wildlife in advance to clear our trophies with them in Chicago on our return flight. They actually met with us in Customs asking were our trophies were. We arranged this in advance so we wouldn't have had to use a import broker here in the US.

We have now come to the conclusion that we will never see our horns or capes from this hunt, we also realize that all along this was never going to happen and that they, the outfitter, Adilet Ulukmanov or the booking agent Profyhunter never had any plans on insuring that we would get our trophies complete and in quality shape. I can't even imagine if we had sent the funds and then still not received the trophies as promised. We have done the hunt, have the memories of the hunt and even have some fantastic pictures of the Ibex we all took. I will just have to place a picture of my Ibex in my trophy room, rather than the mount of the animal.

If there is a respectable, honest outfitter who offers Ibex hunts I would like for you to contact me as I am most interested in returning to get the mount I so desire. I will take the money I have from this last trip and apply it towards a new memorable hunt in the future.

I am posting this here in order to help fellow future hunters, help them know the ins and outs of a hunt overseas and what to expect. If anyone needs any follow up info on this hunt or details on the outfitter or booking agent. I can be reached at PHprez@gmail.com

Steve

Steve, we will not send the trophy without payment!!!!
You have paid only 2000USD for hunitng fees
Please, make the many transfer for throphy fees - 1800USD
Steve with USA hunters in Naryn 2012
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To all here. I agree that money is owed to Profyhunter for the hunt and for the trophy fees. But, I have to agree with Larrys that the outfitter/booking agent is responsible to make sure the hunt goes off without major problems. Unforgettably ours did. There also at this point is a lack of trust on my end as what was agreed to prior to us departing the hunt was not ad-heard to. Originally the outfitter told us we could pay him once the trophies were shipped and that he would ship the trophies in two weeks after our departure. Once I returned home they changed their minds and stated I needed to send the money before they would ship the trophies. I am just worried that the skins were not properly taken care of and that I will have nothing to mount or maybe they will not be sent at all. I have been contacted by a Forum member from another forum, who is a "Super mMderator" on that forum (AH) He has offered to be a non bias moderator between Profyhunter (AKA Ibexhunter)and myself. He sent a PM to the both of us stating he would collect the money from me, hold the money and when the trophies are shipped and received By our group in good shape he the moderator, who lives in Canada, would release the money in full to Profyhunter ( Ibexhunter) for payment. I have agreed to let this happen. To date Profyhunter(Ibexhunter) has yet to reply to this offer to complete this mess. If everything was on the up and up and everyone involved knew that the skulls, horns and skins are in mountable shape, why then would they not agree to this. In the end everyone would have there money or trophies and be satisfied. With this not happening, this brings out the RED Flag as now there is something wrong. Everyone who is following this , please let me know if I am looking at this wrong???? Prezman

Prezman,

you should start your own thread.

and no you owe what you owe. you have to pay and if you re not happy then you ll report here or wherever you want and explain.

not easy to follow your story on different threads plus the sensation about what happens to you and your group is not the feeling of the people that has been a little more in those kind of countries.

Dang, that's a tough situation.

A couple observations, since you asked for feedback.

First, the booking agent has no control over the situation. He can make promises, but has no leverage to make things happen.

It appears you are being reasonable about it. An escrow account is a good deal. Having a moderator from a talk forum as the escrow holder? Maybe he doesn't trust that this is an honest deal. I'm not implying that you have any ill intentions, but, I can see how a Russian would be skeptical. Corruption is a part of everyday life there.

Use a real established escrow service, one that is completely unbiased. See if you two can split the fee for it. If he balks at that idea, spend your money elsewhere and go back. I don't see a more reasonable solution than that.

After all, you have reason to be skeptical about them even having possession of your trophies when they won't send you a photo.

Good luck. I hope he comes through for you.