The more I read in this forum the more I am {convinced that it should be renamed to the:

DUCK HUNTING FORUM

Perhaps Saeed could see to creating a duck forum and a separate upland forum......this place needs more fowl individuals if you ask me.

Do you duck hunt, Don?

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Originally posted by Norton:
Perhaps Saeed could see to creating a duck forum and a separate upland forum......this place needs more fowl individuals if you ask me.

Do you duck hunt, Don?

Don doesn't hunt. He bitches about conspiracies and complains about all other bird issues. Gets a lot accomplaished, too. Not.

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Originally posted by Norton:
Perhaps Saeed could see to creating a duck forum and a separate upland forum......this place needs more fowl individuals if you ask me.

Do you duck hunt, Don?

No I don't Norton. Many years ago I probably went between 10 and 15 times a season. I gave
up on waterfowl hunting when steel shot became mandatory. And when groups like PETA and GREENPEACE were allowed as much input as those of us actually paying for conservation.

I'm 64 years old and have had some serious health issues over the last two years. This will be the first year I've been able to resume upland bird hunting.

Kamo, who I believe is a left-winger posing as a hunter, doesn't like the fact I think the steel shot issue is politically motivated. The EPA is a staunch defender of wetlands and does very little if nothing to protect upland lands.
In short, I don't see major companies being required to purchase replacement upland ground when habitat is disturbed by industry like is required of sites determined by many vague and arbitrary rules and regulations to be wetlands.

I have always wondered why lead shot is blamed for poisoning water birds and little to nothing is said about farm runoff and industrial waste.
Where the hell do they think all the mercury contamination in fish is coming from?

I do believe that if we spent as much money and effort preserving upland habitat as we do on
wetlands, the result would be the same. There would be no scoffing at upland hunters and the jokes about pen raised birds would disappear.

Once in awhile I become offended at the condecending, better than you, attitudes projected by waterfowl hunters to the degree I wish this bird hunting section was split between the two.

Have a good and prosperous season Buddy!

Regards,
Don

Well Don.....I agree that there isn't much these days that isn't politicaly motivated. That being said, I hunt both upland and fowl HARD, and depending upon where you're from one or the other is usually better and/or more popular. Habitat preservation is where it's at for both.

Are you surprised that the tree-hugging contingent ignores science? You should know that everything they think and do is based on emotional rather than rational thought. Like with all liberals, how do you argue with emotion? They don't care about facts.

I won't touch your statement about quitting duck hunting......other than to say that I'd shoot rocks at them if it were all that was legal.

Finally, I hunt with KG at least a couple of days a week.......left-wing he is not.....and we hurl more steel and lead than anyone I know.

Best of luck and glad to hear you're able to get back out there.......and go shoot some ducks!!

I would leave it like it is. With the limited activity on this forum I just don't see a split as being necessary. And many or most like talking about these things interchangeably. In other words I sort of see it as a package deal and I'm interested equally in all phases of bird hunting/waterfowling and that includes quail, pheasant, turkey, duck, goose, snipe, woodcock, grouse and whatever else is out there. And I wouldn't want to have to go to more than one board to find them. Now, in the unlikely event hundreds upon hundreds start showing up here and want to talk about everything at once, maybe simply to avoid confusion in such case the subject could be re-visited. But I don't know that I see that happening.

One other thing I think should be said...let's remember this is a very, very small segment of an overall international forum built in major part around African dangerous game. There are many, many other places on the net to discuss bird hunting/waterfowling and I think we should consider ourselves lucky to even have this small corner here to discuss an aspect of hunting we enjoy. My thanks to Saeed and company for making that possible.

Well said Shack

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Originally posted by Palmer:
Well said Shack

+1

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Originally posted by Don Slater]



Kamo, who I believe is a left-winger posing as a hunter,

Don

I live in staunch republican country, so I wouldn't know, democrats can't hunt?

Like said above, I don't think there is enough traffic to warrant two seperate forums.

OK. I concede that I must be a minority on this issue.

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Originally posted by Shack:
I would leave it like it is. With the limited activity on this forum I just don't see a split as being necessary. And many or most like talking about these things interchangeably. In other words I sort of see it as a package deal and I'm interested equally in all phases of bird hunting/waterfowling and that includes quail, pheasant, turkey, duck, goose, snipe, woodcock, grouse and whatever else is out there. And I wouldn't want to have to go to more than one board to find them. Now, in the unlikely event hundreds upon hundreds start showing up here and want to talk about everything at once, maybe simply to avoid confusion in such case the subject could be re-visited. But I don't know that I see that happening.

One other thing I think should be said...let's remember this is a very, very small segment of an overall international forum built in major part around African dangerous game. There are many, many other places on the net to discuss bird hunting/waterfowling and I think we should consider ourselves lucky to even have this small corner here to discuss an aspect of hunting we enjoy. My thanks to Saeed and company for making that possible.

I notice you like turkey hunting, Shack. You would do well to hunt them here in Ohio. Our
turkey program has done so well I get tired of having to stop and shoo them off the road just to go to the grocery store!

Now the local news reports the big birds are
terrorizing city dwellers in their own back yards. A friend was chased by two toms protecting their hens lately....at work no less. It won't be too much longer and a turkey tag as well as a concealed carry permit will be necessary for self protection!

We seem to be inheriting the bear overflow from Pennsylvania and West Virginia too.

Kamo,

If Norton says you are not a left-winger, that's good enough for me. I appologize for my comments! I'm just a cranky old bastard that needs overlooked from time to time.

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Originally posted by Don Slater:
Kamo,

If Norton says you are not a left-winger, that's good enough for me. I appologize for my comments! I'm just a cranky old bastard that needs overlooked from time to time.

No worries Don, and thanks. I might shoot steel, but I ain't no stinking lefty (my home state notwithstanding)!

Another vote for leaving it like it is.

I don't see any problem with too much traffic from water fowlers and since I hunt both it's one stop reading.

Reading the exchanges between Don Slater and Kamo Gari I almost thought that they both hated hunters who don't hunt what they hunt. Having been a ringneck and partridge hunter all my hunting life (with occasional jump shooting along a brook and sneaking up on a beaver pond for ducks when I was young enough to see dinosaurs) I do side with Don about failure to protect upland bird hunting areas -as compared to how duck hunting areas are protected (Robinson-Patman Act, duck stamps,etc) I was astonished to read that that Kamo Gari was a left winger (They let him carry a gun?) I always want to believe the worse about a Bosox fan but I really do believe that Kamo Gari is a good guy -even if he does -like me - come from too liberal a state.

Gerry,

As an older person who was there when God created the dinosauers, I have some difficulty
communicating via the internet.

I often misunderstand someone's position or what they are trying to say. And being a cranky old bastard, I speak too harshly and far too often too quickly!

Kamo Gari was gracious enough to accept my appology and I am grateful for that.

No, I do not "hate" others who hunt something different than I, but I do not like it when some think that what and how others hunt are somehow inferior or even unsportsman like.
Sometimes we hunt what we hunt and how we hunt
not by choice but by circumstance.

Some of us must by necessity hunt DOW released birds, which by the way are pen-raised birds,
simply because nothing else is available at a
reasonable cost within a reasonable distance.

I'm sure many waterfowlers don't hunt with steel shot by choice any more than I hunt bird farms by choice. Somehow I just can't justify
a trip to the Dakotas just to shoot two cock birds per day! I'd prefer to simply buy a side of beef from a local farmer.

Quail hunting and squirrel hunting was my passion as a youngster. Both were abundant
then and many present issues did not exist. Hell. I can even remember walking through town
to go hunting with my trusty pump gun slung over my shoulder and having a local cop stop and ask me what I was going hunting for and wishing me success just before moving on to real police work. TRY THAT TODAY!

Lately I have discovered that using a gun bigger than 20 gauge for quail and using a shotgun at all for squirrels made me less than a real hunter? I only found these facts recently on the internet as I was repremanded by fellow hunters.

And please let's not revisit the issue of deer hunting in Texas near a feeder. Sometimes we have issues with practices we do not fully understand! I'm usually les than impressed with local hunters who bag a turkey. Why? They are so numerous I often need to shoo them off the road just to go to the store. Such is not the case everywhere!

To me these self righteous snipes at each other
makes us our own worse enemies!!! And God only knows we hunters need all the friends we can get!

Regards,
Don

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Originally posted by Don Slater:


To me these self righteous snipes at each other
makes us our own worse enemies!!! And God only knows we hunters need all the friends we can get!

Regards,
Don

Leave it to a bird hunter to work the word 'snipe' into a sentence. Stop ducking the issues, already. You're likely to ruffle some feathers and say something that'll get stuck in someone's craw...

Cheers, Don.

KG

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Originally posted by Kamo Gari:

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Originally posted by Don Slater:


To me these self righteous snipes at each other
makes us our own worse enemies!!! And God only knows we hunters need all the friends we can get!

Regards,
Don

Leave it to a bird hunter to work the word 'snipe' into a sentence. Stop ducking the issues, already. You're likely to ruffle some feathers and say something that'll get stuck in someone's craw...

Cheers, Don.

KG

OK KG. May you be very successful this season!!

Leave it like it is. We don't have a dangerous game forum, a spiral horned forum, a pygmy antelope forum, etc. And, we get a hell of a lot more traffic on African big game than we get on bird shooting.