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05 April 2014, 07:36
collector
American Woodcock
Got the bird back from the taxidermist. Woodcock are one of the hardest birds to mount and must be done by an experienced bird taxidermist. Many taxidermists say that they are equivalent to wet tissue paper when it comes to handling and prepping the skin.


05 April 2014, 19:23
twilli
Awesome mount. Who did it ?
06 April 2014, 04:28
Norton
Beautiful.
06 April 2014, 07:32
youngoutdoors
That is the best one I've seen. Bet my dog would look good pointing that one.

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06 April 2014, 09:51
BigB
I have one mounted but does not look as good as yours. I agree that is the best I have ever seen.

BigB
06 April 2014, 13:33
Fallow Buck
Nice mount. It is probably my favourite game bird to hunt.

Indeed I think they are incredibly difficult to both mount and to depict either drawn or especially engraved.

In flight they have that certain way of carrying themselves that is completely unique.

Do you have the long and short bill variations in the states that we get in Europe?

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07 April 2014, 00:27
L. David Keith
In my years of taxidermy, I found "Timber Doodle's" no harder to mount than Dove's or Snipe. Very delicate? Absolutely, but the same care was needed for the ones I mentioned and some I did not. Very nice mount collector Smiler


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07 April 2014, 03:25
collector
Thanks all, glad you liked it.

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@FallowBuck
Now on the long and short bill for the North American Woodcock. There is a difference in length of the bill, it is done be holding a one dollar bill side ways. If the bill is shorter than the bill, it is supposed to be a male. If just about to the edge (or longer) then it is a female. So bottom line is that females are a bit bigger in size than the males. North American Woodcock is a good 1/3rd smaller than the European Woodcock. I will take a comparison pic and post it as soon as I get a chance.


@LDK
Agreed, doves are also a pain in the butt to mount.
07 April 2014, 04:13
Fallow Buck
Thanks for that. I will see what I can dig up pics on the European variations. I've never heard of it being attributed to gender though so that is interesting.

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07 April 2014, 18:59
Zephyr
There is a size difference between the American and European Woodcock. The European Woddcock weighing in at 328g or 11.5ozs and the American Woodcock at 215g or 7.6oz. Our females at 7.6oz are bigger than the males 6.2oz depending on the time of the season. Below are some pics that show Collector's way of sexing our American Woodcock


Female


Male

The other way to determine gender is looking at the first three Primary feathers the Females feather is wider as the pic below shows I do not have a primary feather of a male but you can go to
http://www.michigandnr.com/pub...xageposter_large.pdf

Here are a few more pics

07 April 2014, 20:16
juanpozzi
BEAUTIFULL BIRD ,great art work .
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08 April 2014, 12:47
Fallow Buck
Taken from google images:

This is how we get what we call the short bills here which you can see by comparison. Several seem to be shot each year, but I have never handled one.







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08 April 2014, 19:11
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@Zephyr
Beautiful reference pics, thanks for sharing. P.S. Loved your double in the back ground, looks awesome.

@FallowBuck
I have never seen woodcocks with such short bills. That is really interesting.


Here are my two Woodcocks side by side. North American on left and Eurasian on right. As you can see, North American is a good 1/3rd smaller in size.


09 April 2014, 01:09
Fallow Buck
Great mounts collector.

That is a really interesting comparison.

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18 April 2014, 05:28
Atticus
Beautiful! I've had a couple done and have been disappointed both times.


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19 April 2014, 01:56
Norton
quote:
Originally posted by collector:
Here are my two Woodcocks side by side. North American on left and Eurasian on right. As you can see, North American is a good 1/3rd smaller in size.


Yeah, but does the Eurasian taste any better? rotflmo
19 April 2014, 16:26
Zephyr
I'll step in it...
I would prefer the taste of Woodcock to Grouse..
19 April 2014, 21:49
Highlander7
Very nice! I haven't seen one in years although I haven't hunted small game the last few years. I did have one scare the hell out of me a couple weeks ago. I was checking my deer hunting area and nearly stepped on one. Never saw one before on this plot of land and been hunting it for the last 5 years.


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