I just read the 11/16 issue of the Hunting Report. There is a short report there about a member who took his. It sounds like a total nightmare.

We are going in January. If it is as bad as described, I won't be taking mine.

Has anyone taken their own lately?

Well, it look like no one has.

I can understand why as we are doing the paper work. They won't simply accept notarized copies of the documents. They want the state to certify in some bizarre form that the notary is in fact licensed to be a notary. It is total insanity.

It's not as far away as Argentina. 20 years ago I had dealings with some eastern (US not Europe) states courts regarding some orders. the required what was referred to as "double barreled" signatures. The signor had his signature verified by a notary; then the notary and notary signature was verified by another court authorized notary. That was in the early '90s; so I suspect it has only gotten worse.

Not a chance Larry.

Apart from th fact that I would need to take too many guns to shoot doves and ducks, (I like using the 28bores on the doves). It is also a nightmare with the paperwork.

If I take into account the wear and tear on my guns it is cheaper to hire them.

K

It is indeed a nightmare. I am going to try it anyway. My guns were bought specifically for Argentina.

I got my permit.

While I was not personally involved, I am told the biggest problem was getting the proper certification for the notary to prove she was a notary.This was a nightmare not to mention ridiculous. Other than that, it was not that bad.

I apparently have to get someone to be responsible for the guns in Argentina.

I'm with you Larry, I have a cased 28/410 set ready to go to Argentina!! I just haven't been since my first trip in 2009. Glad the papers can be conquered, and good luck on your trip.

We leave January 23. I will report on how it goes.

Larry, here's my most recent experience (March '16):

Flying from Dallas to Cordoba (transiting thru Santiago, Chile). Made a trip down to Houston to visit the Argentine consulate and get the paperwork done. No issues at the time.

As our departure approached, we got in touch with the airline to confirm that there would be no issues going thru Chile with our firearms (we'd only be connecting; we'd never take possession of our baggage). Airline said no problem. Being a non-believer in my own species, we also asked the Argentine Consulate (who also gave us the green light).

We arrive in Santiago and spend the better part of eight hours waiting for our connecting flight. Just before boarding, they call me to the counter and inform me that "they have found something dangerous in our luggage". They escort me into the bowels of the airport where the black pajama security forces are all but freaking out because we have (gasp!) a rifle, a shotgun, and rifle ammunition. I explain what's afoot, show them my Argentine paperwork, my tickets, my passport...everything they ask for. This satisfies no one.

Convinced I'm about to learn what the inside of a Chilean jail looks like, they finally (JUST before my flight departs) decide that I'm a problem for the Argentinians, not them. I frantically re-secure everything and leave.

The Chileans did, however, find that the Argentines had botched my ammo count...the rifle count was correct but they showed shotgun ammo that I didn't have in possession. I should have caught it, but didn't...

No significant problems either arriving or departing Argentina.

Return flight back thru Santiago: same song, second verse (though thankfully not as intense the second time around).

So Chile in general (and Santiago in particular) can go straight to Hell as far as I'm concerned.

One note (regarding another hunter staying at Rincon de Luna while we were there): he had his rifle held in B.A. and had to hunt with a borrowed rifle during his trip.

So, a three ring circus on either entry point into Argentina. I'll never transport firearms into that part of the world ever again.

Your mileage, of course, may vary...and I hope and pray that it does!

Mark

I have never heard anything good about the Santiago route.

I have taken my guns an estimated 15 times. Only once was with the new paperwork. Oddly, the only problem I had was when I did not take guns. They kept insisting I show my RENAR paperwork. Of course, there was none. That sent them into convulsions.

I am going to try it. I may regret it but I am going to try it.

Is the direct flight MIA to COR available still and would that not be better?

That flight has been suspended. BsAs didn't like the popularity of it.

Just landed in Atlanta. I have my observations as well as new rules. I will post later.

Bottom line is it is mildly annoying but I will do it again. Some things that on the surface seem like a little problem were a big benefit.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Just landed in Atlanta. I have my observations as well as new rules. I will post later.

Bottom line is it is mildly annoying but I will do it again. Some things that on the surface seem like a little problem were a big benefit.

Have a safe and successful trip Larry, looking forward to your report when you return.