I JUST RETURNED AFTER GUIDING 2 ITALIAN HUNTERS IN PIDGEON SHOOTING THEY COULDNT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE NOT LIMITIS HERE AND THE YOU CAN SHOOT 500 SHOOTS IN 2 HOURS INCREDIBLE YES BUT REAL I USED A WEIMARAN A SETTER AND A POINTER AS RETRIEVERS THEY KILLED BETWEEN 200 AND 300 PIDGEONS EACH IN ONE DAY OF FULL SHOOTING.JUAN WE USED BERETTAS A390 12 GAUGE FIOCCHI NUB 5 AND 3