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I really don't care what guys use either. Most of you know me by now and how I like to stir the pot, beat the hornets nest and keep a post going to see all of the responses. I have fun! I love to see how upset some get but what really surprises me is how many actually agree with what I post. You have to take it with a grain of salt. All of my friends use inlines and I help them sight in and develop loads. What I really don't like about them is they can get awful hard to load after a shot. They can be a pain to take apart and clean. The newer ones are nice and I would love one for a round ball. The main reason I like a patched round ball is the ease of reloading yet they are deadly on deer. Do you notice I never get angry because I am in the wind. I am guilty of a lot of things too. I sit in a stand with a revolver and wish I had a rifle stock on them. I do manage unreal shots offhand though and the feeling goes away. For all that take me dead serious should unwind a little and just join the fun. The only thing I get serious about is accuracy and using the right bullet/boolit for hunting. So now that I have a lot of you wound up---Merry Christmas. | |||
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bfrshooter, "A sick mind is a terrible thing to waste." Merry Christmas to you as well, Lee | |||
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With the NEF one screw, take off the forearm, screw out the breech plug, with teflon tape applied and throw it in the dishwasher when your wife is not home? | |||
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Now what would you guys do without me? | |||
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Continue to shoot smokeless savage ML'ers ....just like before Dave If Accurate Rifles are Interesting.........I've Got Some Savage Rifles That Are Getting Mighty Interesting..... | |||
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You all that like to hunt close should come down to Missouri next fall. There are some big deer and open fields in the north part of the State, but the Mark Twain National Forest in the Ozarks is just what it sounds like - hilly, woody, and brushy. You will hardly ever SEE a 200 yard deer in that country, so long range shooting isn't a biggie. Bow season runs from mid-September to New Years, except during the firearms and muzzleloader seasons. Orange is required during ML season as well as in firearms season, so the buckskin outfit is out, but otherwise you should be well satisfied. If you are willing to walk a ways from the road, you can pretty well count on not seeing anyone else all day. Puts you and your rocklock at the top of the food chain. | |||
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Shooting a traditional ML, like my Great Plains 54 flinter, just feels right-kind of like shooting my selfbow. Hard to explain unless you've done it. | |||
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I totally agree. However, shooting ANY muzzle loader; even a "mattell inline" feels better than shooting one of those "suppository" guns. "You can lead a horticulture, ... but you can't make 'er think" Florida Gardener | |||
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well i guess i sorta fall in this being my main ml hunter is the origanal inline the old h&r huntsman 58 cal break open my other is a t/c new englander 50 cal that i also take out every year but i agree the new inlines are not primitive weapons DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR | |||
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I have had my share of Flintlocks and Cap locks.They have lost their appeal to me.(Lazy and gettin old)I like my Omega.Easy to clean ,use Tripel X and 295 Gr.Powerbelts.70 yds .is a long shot in the woods here.Maybe put a Propoint or 1X Scope on as my eyeballs arnt much good with irons anymore.I just like being in the woods so anything that extends my time there works for me!!!! | |||
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People are people some like thing more traditional some like new things. New is not always better however I will lean towards my Knight disc elite...stainless/black senthetic/Nikon Monach 3x9x40scoped/777/.209/sabot rifle every time the law will allow. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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1."I would buy one rifled for a round ball but will have nothing to do with sabots and revolver bullets." To terrify you even worse, there are those innovators (like we had in years of past) who are using "caliber specific" bullets to place down the bore WITHOUT patches OR sabots!! 2. "I sold my high power rifles because it was just too easy to kill. Not hunting at all, more like bullseye shooting. Anything in sight was dead. Cows in a field are just as sporting. To advance the muzzle loader to this will never fit my idea of hunting." If you're shooting at less than 200yds, an '06 may not be very "sporting". But if you're shooting @ 150yds with a round ball, I consider it being inhumane.........so do a lot of other "inliners". Dare I say, "You are outnumbered."? 3. "I keep getting the feeling that it is the greed to kill and not the hunting experience that controls the market today." I'm personally not in it for the "market". I'm in it for hunting/meat. A buck here in Iowa can be just as tasty as a doe. Yet a doe is good meat in the freezer and a trophy buck is...well. ..just that. You pass up that buck @ 200yds and I will get him at that distance...HUMANELY! Your balls are only humane using certain specific shots at certain short distances. I also have a couple of sidelocks, one specific for round balls and one for conicals/round balls. Added to that is an Encore and a Savage. Such a debate as this is, to say the least, "STUPID"!! You have your way of doing things, I have mine. For either of to us to impose our way of things on the other is only cutting one-in-other's freedom's throats.....may as well start referring to each other as "comrades" and forget all about our 2d amendment freedoms. This whole subject is really dumb.....can't believe I got "sucked" into the whole thing!! ************************ Our independence is dying. | |||
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I don't get into the this vs that..just like to build flintlocks to hunt with. It really doesn't matter to me what others are using I hunt with flintlocks during modern gun season too. Unless I feel like using one of my modern rifles in a long shot area. Got this buck last wk during a modern gun hunt on some fl. public land. 58cal. Berk's Co. with patched roundball. | |||
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Idaho Fish and Game call it a primative hunt, most of that other stuff is out...no scopes and they have to load from the muzzle... I used a Lyman Plains rifle with a custom 54 cal. barrel, still got it but havn't used it for a number of years.. I think the game depts give muzzle loaders a break on hunting and allow rut hunts etc, and I think if you hunt with a muzzle loader it should be a primitive weapon or a copy thereof.. To use an inline or any of todays MLs is a joke, just like using a Ruger no. 1 IMO...The idea of muzzle loading hunts has been bastardized... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Me too, and why can you hunt with a compound bow but not a cross bow? Crossbow technology is 2000 years old. Compound bow were invented in my lifetime. What the hell is that about? | |||
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Wait until Obama is elected, then a flintlock will be classified as an asult rifle. | |||
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