Hello Everyone, I'm just starting to try hunting with a flintlock and was wondering if I can use American pioneer Powder (loose-equalivent to 3x) in my Deerstalker. Thank you for the replies. PaLuke

I think you will find few substitute powders that will reliably shoot in a flintlock. You will have to at least use real black in the pan and possibly a duplex load of black below the main charge of substitute powder. Black Mag 3 is one of the sugstitutes that ignites at lower temperature similar to real black powder. On the other end of the scale Tripple Seven is much harder to ignite. I think AP powder is somewhere in the middle.

Luke,
Two years ago, I tried AP in my Lyman 54 GP flintlock, hoping for easy cleanup in our flintlock season. Mine is an extemely reliable rifle, for me. This rifle has agate flint and a standard factory frizzen. I tried grinding AP to an extremely fine granulation for the pan, and used 2F in the barrel. The powder in the pan did not ignite. I then tried 4F black in the pan and 2F AP as the load. I got flashes in the pan, but no ignition. I wound up worming the ball out of the barrel.
My experience. AP works well enough in my in line, not as accurate as some others, but works reliably and is easy clean up. No so in the flinter.
Bfly

Thanks for the replies. I got a can of Goex 2F for the barrel and the ignition now is almost instantaneous. I read about the AP powder and thought I'd try it. I guess the regular black powder is hard to beat. As far as flintlocks go,which are usually more accurate ones that shoot conicals or round balls? Providing the gun has the appropriate twist barrel. I'm trying to decide between a Great Plains Hunter or a Great Plains rifle. Thanks for the replies. PaLuke

back a few years ,when I took up muzzleloaders,I noted the poor ignition characterisics of pyrodex,and considered using a "duplex" charge of a small amount of black first,then a main charge of pyro on top.Then I figured ,why would I want to carry around 2 flasks of powder,when I could just use black powder,and be done with it?
Goex isnt available many places here anymore,and must be considered more dangerous to have on hand the the substitutes,but certainly works for me.The extra ignition of the inline has certainly helped with ignition of the substitutes in cold weather,but Im sticking with the real deal.
My brother in law uses the american pioneer powder ,and swears by it.His local dealer has stopping stocking it ,and he must now special order it.He was told they stopped stocking it due to ignition problems,but he has had good luck with it.