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| The materials and quality of the workmanship leave a lot to be desired. That doesn't mean you can't have some fun with it, just don't expect it to shoot like a match rifle. It should be able to pass the "pieplate" test and be usable as a deer rifle, and you might even have lucked onto one that can shoot better than that. You never know until you give it a try.
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| Posts: 224 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: 01 January 2006 |
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| Minute of pie plate works for me for something to kill a deer with. I've never shot a muzzleloader but have always wanted to try. When this deal came along I couldnt pass it up. I just hope I dont catch some ML bug. Ive got enough money in guns and what not. Just ask my wife.
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| Posts: 99 | Location: Hays, Kansas | Registered: 02 August 2005 |
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| It is addictive. I bought a fairly inexpensive T/C Scout just so I could get drawn for elk occasionally. Then I traded the Scout for an Omega, then I bought a Traditions Pursuit Lt which I traded for a NEF Huntsman, then I bought a T/C Hawken .54, then I bought a green mountain barrel for the Hawken in .50 so I could shoot both calibers, then I bought a Lyman Trade Rifle .50 in flintlock. Not sure what is next. |
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| quote: Originally posted by concho: What the H--- is a POS ?
POS means Piece of shit. |
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| Laner, The upside is that most m/l's are less expensive than decent centerfires. The downside is that they are very addictive and might lead to more serious habits like boolit casting and handloading.
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| Posts: 224 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: 01 January 2006 |
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| Addiction would be a good word. I started a few years ago with a CVA Staghorn Mag and it shot very well, about an inch at 75 yards. It now carries a scope for when I hunt Missouri and can use one and I bought a new CVA Kodiak. It shoots better than the Staghorn with open sights, so it goes everywhere else with me. Been thinking about an Encore for the multiple barrels, so it is catching.
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| Posts: 3942 | Location: Kansas USA | Registered: 04 February 2002 |
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| Thank you smallfish ! Mr Laner what idiot told you CVA's were a piece of shit ? I have several and they shoot as well as any others on the market . |
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| I have had one for several years, it has been accurate and depndable its a 50 cal cva staghorn it has been good enough to shoot sillohettes at 200 yds thus winning me a trophy... At a bufflo shoot competition... it has been good for no more than it cost me....
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| Posts: 17 | Location: Central Illinois | Registered: 11 July 2003 |
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| Sweet. Sounds like I got one hell of a deal then. Its not a pretty gun by any means but I couldnt care less if it will shoot. As of today, I havent shot it yet. Looking around for a deal on a starter kit. Speaking of which, are they really worth the money? Or would it be smarter to buy the parts and pieces separately? I've got an idea on powder (no pellets)and am still looking at diff bullets. Any help on these would be appreciated. BTW, thanks for the continued responces. I thought this thread was dead.
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| concho, there are several folks on this forum that wouldn't have a CVA if given to them, triple7 being one, if I remember properly. My experience has always been excellent though. Read the directions and you will really enjoy it. I use 110 grains of Pyrodex pellets with a 240 or 300 grain 44 caliber XTP handgun bullet in a T/C green sabot for my 50 caliber rifles. This combo shoots well for me.
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| Posts: 3942 | Location: Kansas USA | Registered: 04 February 2002 |
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| Larry I think you have me confused with someone else ! I don't understand your statement directed to me ? |
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| quote: Originally posted by larrys: concho, there are several folks on this forum that wouldn't have a CVA if given to them, triple7 being one, if I remember properly. My experience has always been excellent though. Read the directions and you will really enjoy it.
I use 110 grains of Pyrodex pellets with a 240 or 300 grain 44 caliber XTP handgun bullet in a T/C green sabot for my 50 caliber rifles. This combo shoots well for me.
110 grains of pellets? Do you use two 30 and one 50 gn? I find that interesting. |
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| concho, my comment was in reference to your question. quote: Mr Laner what idiot told you CVA's were a piece of shit ?
. He could have heard it here on this board was my only reference. Some folks here feel that way. small fish, yes, that is exactly what I use. I put the 50 grainer in first and then load the 30s on top of it, then the bullet. It is the most accurate combination I have found. I make up several loaders in advance.
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| Larrys [Read The diections and enjoy it] is what I don't understand ???? |
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| Concho, on some of the powders, there are different instructions that need to be heeded. From the user manual for my Staghorn Mag... quote: "Magnum" loads for CVA in-lines are safe only when using pelletized powder. "Magnum" loads of loose blackpowder or Pyrodex are inefficient and are not recommended.
Use only Blackpowder or an approved blackpowder substitute in your muzzleloading firearms. The only approved blackpowder substitutes are Pyrodex and Pyrodex Pellets, Triple 7 Powder & Triple 7 Pellets, 2 Pioneer Powder & Pioneer Powder Stix, Clean Shot Powder & Clean Shot Pellets, and Clear Shot powder. (No mention of MagPro)
When using saboted bullets and pelletized powder, maximum bullet weight should not exceed 300 grains. With loose powder loads, conical lead bullets should never exceed 400 grains. Heavier bullets may produce dangerously high pressure levels, possibly resulting in explosion of the gun and severe injury to the shooter and bystanders.
These type of things are what I was referring to. That's all. I always caution someone to read the instructions.
Larry
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| Thank You Larrys |
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