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has anyone ever Magna Ported a Muzzle Loader or put a Break on one. Just a Thought
 
Posts: 1462 | Location: maryland / Clayton Delaware | Registered: 16 December 2004Reply With Quote
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Traditions sells some of their rifles with ported barrels. It looks to me like it just makse cleaning a lot harder.
 
Posts: 207 | Location: Mesa, Arizona | Registered: 31 August 2004Reply With Quote
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magna-port? WOW - next thing you know, people will be putting scopes on them - YIKES!

Seriously though, recoil is so soft and low, a magnaport is probably non-effective. Ports work best on guns with muzzle-blast induced recoil - like the modern magnums with high muzzle pressures. BP guns don't have high muzzle pressure, therefore little muzzle-blast induced recoil. A 'port' would not be very effective.
Before and after. rifle is 9 1/2 pounds, .69 cal. 165gr. 2f and a 482gr. ball. recoil is a bit of a push, but is not execessive.




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Not a crazy question at all.

I have a Traditions with a screw on brake and YES!! recoil is drasticly less than my other M/L rifles but the noise levles are not acceptable for my taste.

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The type of porting that I have done on many 44 magnum handguns would benefit your rifle from all of that extra rise. It seems to be more than 35 deg. and thats in-line with a dang/game type of recoil.


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Posts: 7361 | Location: South East Missouri | Registered: 23 November 2005Reply With Quote
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Looks like it's time to thread your muzzle, Daryl!



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Posts: 802 | Location: Palomino Valley, NV | Registered: 26 April 2005Reply With Quote
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brakes are not usually recommended for saboted loads, there are quite successful for sabot-less applications.
 
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Daryl-


I fired up the CAD/CAM dynamic engineering modeling software, came up with some very surprising results.

Let's just say, for now I think you can rest in comfort with the delays you've been experiencing on scheduling that shoulder surgery.



Here's you with the rifle in full recoil WITHOUT a muzzle accessory.

note the amount of PUNISHING RECOIL you've been putting yourself through here...






Now - hold on to your hat Daryl, because what I've come up with in this exercise is going to shock you.



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All I can say is that you should be glad that you're associated with good metalsmiths up there in Canada, and that I can email you the simple shop drawings of the three-chamber, six-port brake that my software suggests.



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Further, with a little bit of tweaking on the internal ballistics, powder load, speed of ejecta gasses etc, I've found that your new IDEAL powder charge is ELEVEN DRAMS!


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That's right Daryl, ELEVEN DRAMS!



BOOM



Do the math Daryl, and have a look at this computer-generated image of the kind of recoil-arc you can expect to see with the simple addition of this new muzzle accessory...



This is FULL RECOIL Dary, FULL RECOIL with ELEVEN DRAMS !!!











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have fun cleaning all those little holes out!!
 
Posts: 24 | Location: Boncarbo,CO | Registered: 02 December 2009Reply With Quote
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I can't imagine the nightmare of trying to get a tightly patched round ball down to the main bore, keeping the patch centred and ball from rotating. Of course, I would need and extra long starter.
As to loads, I once fired off a 12.1 dram load by accident once. I was shooting over the chronograph and recorded a whole 70fps more than 8 1/4 drams . Recoil, of course was in proportion to the charge. I was sitting at the bench and lended up standing behind my chair. Good thing my right foot was behind me or i'd have been on my ass.

I think I'll leave the muzzle the way it is. The gun rocks up quite high as it should, but doesn't hurt due ot the design, wide butt etc. It also drives the shoudler down, which lifts the face off the comb instead of smacking you. The English had the design down pat for a heavy game hunting rifle.


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