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Has the manifesto been made public yet from the Nashville (corrected) school murderer? Maybe better asked as why it has not been made public? What is gained by hiding this? ~Ann   | ||
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Crickets... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I'm guessing it has something to do with Hunter's laptop.  -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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If it's possible motive who cares? When has knowing one of these shooters' motive EVER BEEN USEFUl in preventing a future similar incident. Oftimes their intentions are telegraphed and they still aren't stopped. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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This will go the way of the Las Vegas shooter...... . | |||
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Apparently there isn't a useful narrative to the media and liberals? That will be my assumption for now. ~Ann | |||
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Yeah, it must be all about the Liberals.  Or maybe, just maybe, it’s about not granting these crazy bastard shooters the fame and media attention they crave so as to not encourage the copy cats. But don’t let that slow you down. | |||
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Therein is the problem. They have been posting these goofy manifestos whenever it looks like a right wing kook. Is this an admission that the left wing kooks are more susceptible to suggestion? You wonder why so many kooks on the right are conspiracy theorists? This plays into it. | |||
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Look at conservative media if you want to understand the Right embracing conspiracy theories. Everyday it is a new rage bait story. They have to keep the faithful agitated and if the truth will not do it, then they just tell the audience what it wants to hear. Look at Murdoch's testimony regarding Trump's stolen election lie, he knew it was a lie but it was more important to feed to base the story it craved. | |||
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The only manifest I like to see is immediate execution of all murderers! On the spot! | |||
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Can you offer any documentation of your claim? I’d be seriously interested, for the sake of establishing fact vs. conjecture. If you can’t, I’m afraid I’d have to call bullshit and you know how I hate to do that.  | |||
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They posted McVeighs manifesto. They post most of the school shooters manifestos. They haven’t said boo about the Vegas shooter… despite all this time. If it’s about racism, they flat out say so, but often refuse to print it- So it’s my recollection that despite saying repeatedly we shouldn’t print them, they tend to ignore it at whim, especially if they’re in a slow news cycle. | |||
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Who is this ominous "they"? | |||
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https://apnews.com/article/las...6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1 I don't see how this helps. In the Las Vegas case, the Nashville Tranny's case and others a badly mentally ill person got a hold of a very deadly weapon and used it to spread their hate. I wouldn't know how you stop "high roller" gamblers from mass murdering, but this tranny and all the rest of them should be on a metaphorical "no fly list". This was ridiculous a while ago. | |||
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I think it is important to see and understand what these freaks are documenting. Yes, clearly there is mental illness so how did they get to this point? These freaks do seem to target groups they feel impose upon them but also know the same are helpless to defend themselves. I'm very curious as to why this freak felt s(he) was slighted so much to have to kill others. I don't see the point of making public that there was a manifesto and then not divulging said info to the public. I think the more we know about what triggers these freaks the better chances there are that a friend, parent, etc will recognize a close friend or family member who could do something similar. I'm also curious as to this freak's medication and health status throughout life. Family life? No doubt something within that scope contributed to the mental illness. In seeing the video recording of the take down I think very little is achieved by blocking out the face of these sick people after they are gunned down. Show it all, show them choking on their blood, show them die. Put it on loop for days so others thinking about this sees it. ~Ann | |||
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The media. I suspect the governmental folks involved know a bunch. LHeym kind of admitted that they show a bunch of this stuff internally, but develop closed lips syndrome when asked to present it publicly in one of these threads. So how much is known about the LV shooter that isn't released? and so on.
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You can bet your home snd last dollar the Memphis Police Administration, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, the School Attorney, and whatever the Memphis district version of me is knows what is on that Manifesto. I could guess, but I am be guessing it something like, “You teach I am evil, condemn me and mine to Hell in the after life and legislate against us here. So, it is better for these children to be delivered through death and blood.” Now, here is the kicker. The killer is killed by responding law enforcement. There is very little investigation to do. There is no grand jury confidentiality here. If the manifesto is in possession of a state agency (it is), we have sn open records requests situation. I say make it public. There is something to be learned from her wing the why from the act. However, when you decide those who have not raised their hand against you have to pay for all “society” has done to you, you get no sympathy nor mercy from me. The excuse is not justification. | |||
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They're ill. Deranged, crazy, nuts, insane, bananas, whacko. Their reasons, their justifications and motives don't matter because they don't make sense. Manson and Hitler couldn't be reasoned with, Mao and Bundy couldn't be negotiated with, the Vegas shooter couldn't have been led to see The Light. Think for a second or two; what amount of starting here and now education, conversation, sermon, lecture, book club, pod cast, forced labor or waterboarding would change the mind of a 21st century Taliban, Moonie, MAGA hat or antifa? No amount. They all make up their own facts as they go with an insurmountable foundation of YouTube. The manifesto doesn't matter, it's authored by a nutty person. I don't mean a nutty person like Ted Kazinski, a guy that understood how to express himself in English, I mean nutty person like can't spell, can't punctuate, can't command big ideas like, " sun rises in east, sets in west." These freaks need to be taken seriously in a, " you're a danger to society, you need prison!" kinda way, but the certainly can't be seriously understood, because there is no understanding. The rational, the sensible can't fathom irrational and nonsense. | |||
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I agree with you that the manifesto is authors by a “nutty person.” I do not think the person was so insane or irrational they lacked criminal responsibility. I agree with you the reason from the point of view of the Killer in all these situations is illogical (for lack of a better word). However, so was Mien Kampf. There is value in studying it. I would caution against staring into the abyss too long. I suspect if the manifesto was of opposite political spectrum author, the contents would be known already. What is good for one is good for the other. | |||
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So you guys believe the "liberal news media" is suppressing the killer's manifesto? Why doesn't FOX and its ilk publish it then? | |||
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Scott, 100% accurate. But it matters that people see it to demonstrate their total insanity. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Coverage of facts has been thin. I am not even clear on the birth sex of the shooter. This person (singular) was disturbed, mentally ill, and bereft of reason. The only thing about this that makes sense is that society was hit where it would hurt worst, and that is likely a key to the motive. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I could care less whether they release it or not. I don’t bother to read the rambling insanities of mass murderers. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I do not think it has been made available but it is sad the whole thing has dropped off the radar. I believe there have been several of these trans people now who have gone on such rampages? ~Ann | |||
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I do not believe trans people in any large number have went on mass murder events. Certainly not compared to those who have targeted trans and gay people. | |||
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The colorado springs, gay nightclub shooter identified as trans. | |||
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You are right, in absolute numbers. Relating to a percentage of the population, maybe they are a bit over represented. Given the popular demand for a “day of vengeance” and other stupid claims, it seems that lots of not legally insane folks buy into this type of rhetoric. And you think that isn’t newsworthy? | |||
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Again, the population sample is so small, this argument is not persuasive. | |||
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