Found this very interesting, and cant say I disagree too much.
Essentially NZ suffers because we have always viewed ourselves as independent.
The question we have to ask ourselves, is how much we value that independence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFPuv_OZDg0

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Found this very interesting, and cant say I disagree too much.
Essentially NZ suffers because we have always viewed ourselves as independent.
The question we have to ask ourselves, is how much we value that independence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFPuv_OZDg0

Hahahaha!

And you pick Mrs Horse teeth to rule you!

Her successor couldn’t tell the difference between man and woman!

Hahahaha!

Yeah, and we got rid of them both.

I guess pointing out our worst is the only way you can justify your situation.
But in doing so, you are aligning your leadership with our worst. You dont compare your leadership too our best.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Yeah, and we got rid of them both.

I guess pointing out our worst is the only way you can justify your situation.
But in doing so, you are aligning your leadership with our worst. You dont compare your leadership too our best.

Outstanding!

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Yeah, and we got rid of them both.

I guess pointing out our worst is the only way you can justify your situation.
But in doing so, you are aligning your leadership with our worst. You dont compare your leadership too our best.

Believe me, I am most certainly NOT happy of what I see in the so called, mistaken, the Free world!

You have inkling what FREE or DEMOCRACY means!

Well Saeed, the "free world" is free only in comparison to the rest of you lot...

No doubt we have our issues, high among them the stupidity of the common man.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Yeah, and we got rid of them both.

I guess pointing out our worst is the only way you can justify your situation.
But in doing so, you are aligning your leadership with our worst. You dont compare your leadership too our best.

Believe me, I am most certainly NOT happy of what I see in the so called, mistaken, the Free world!

You have inkling what FREE or DEMOCRACY means!

I do notice you never actually address the points of peoples posts. Just throw more shade.

Its not a strong argument you make if you are trying to imply your system is better.

Democracy is far from perfect. But there is a reason why western democracies make up the top 20+ places for quality of life.
https://www.usnews.com/news/be...ings/quality-of-life

I suspect that as your nation becomes more democratic. yours will improve too. From what ive seen you are on the right track. At least as far as the middle east go's.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Well Saeed, the "free world" is free only in comparison to the rest of you lot...

No doubt we have our issues, high among them the stupidity of the common man.

That is a load of bullshit!

You have absolutely no idea what FREE means!

Oh I get it.

You FREE to lose between Trump and Biden!